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01-31-2011, 01:12 PM
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His Eminance, High Potatohead Potatotate
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
I'm staying the UPC... for now...
I still think the good outweighs the bad...
Mark Johnston...and those guys made their choices...
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01-31-2011, 01:13 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
Mark who????
take note.....some of us don't pay any attention to who is who in Apostolic circles we just work for Jesus and are too busy to care........can I get an Amen from all of you out there who are so busy you barely have time to get online any more at all?????
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02-03-2011, 12:50 PM
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Standing fast in liberty!
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
I've been out of UPCI for about 4 years now, never was licensed. But I can assure you that this post was the saddest and closest to home that I've read in a long time! Thank you, Mizpeh!
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...2&postcount=64
If this doesn't describe not only the UPCI, but the OP movement as a whole, I just don't know what does. Let's get back to the basics, folks. And by "basics," I don't mean all the stuff we add to the gospel.
Jesus said, "Go make disciples." He didn't say make converts and indoctrinate them with the dogma and tradition of our sect.
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02-03-2011, 01:00 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
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Originally Posted by Jim H
I've been out of UPCI for about 4 years now, never was licensed. But I can assure you that this post was the saddest and closest to home that I've read in a long time! Thank you, Mizpeh!
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...2&postcount=64
If this doesn't describe not only the UPCI, but the OP movement as a whole, I just don't know what does. Let's get back to the basics, folks. And by "basics," I don't mean all the stuff we add to the gospel.
Jesus said, "Go make disciples." He didn't say make converts and indoctrinate them with the dogma and tradition of our sect.
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02-03-2011, 02:24 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
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Originally Posted by Jim H
I've been out of UPCI for about 4 years now, never was licensed. But I can assure you that this post was the saddest and closest to home that I've read in a long time! Thank you, Mizpeh!
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...2&postcount=64
If this doesn't describe not only the UPCI, but the OP movement as a whole, I just don't know what does. Let's get back to the basics, folks. And by "basics," I don't mean all the stuff we add to the gospel.
Jesus said, "Go make disciples." He didn't say make converts and indoctrinate them with the dogma and tradition of our sect.
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Amen. I feel the same and also used Garrison Keillor recently to make that point...
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
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02-03-2011, 05:43 PM
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Strange in a Strange Land...
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
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Originally Posted by brianmidwest
When an organization's main purpose becomes growing the organization, it will eventually see it's end.
We need a leadership points to the Savior, not a HQ.
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Wait....you mean the Savior's foot stool isn't in MO?
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02-03-2011, 06:19 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
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Originally Posted by revrandy
I'm staying the UPC... for now...
I still think the good outweighs the bad...
Mark Johnston...and those guys made their choices...
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Did you forget to add, " ...and God bless them, prosper them, and lead and guide them into all truth."?
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02-03-2011, 06:20 PM
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Banned
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
Did you forget to add, " ...and God bless them, prosper them, and lead and guide them into all truth."?
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03-26-2011, 10:34 AM
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Administrator
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI
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Originally Posted by Justin
According to some of the comments on a Mark Johnston youtube video, He's been out of the UPC for a few months:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt2bAW4ZwLw
"He is not UPCI anymore....he has totally went off the deep end and has no doctrinal stance based on his website.....
Drew2Cute 3 months ago"
"..is he still with UPCI..? I'm asking as I'm unable to locate him in the UPCI Church Locator.
YoMamaWearzArmyBootz 4 months ago
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I hear great things about MJ but if this video clip is his usual speaking style I would last about 5 minutes in a service with him preaching. What is it with the screaming? Why do preachers think they have to do that to be powerful and effective or "annointed"? Arghhhh!!!!!
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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03-26-2011, 11:48 AM
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Ravaged by Grace
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI
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Originally Posted by CC1
I hear great things about MJ but if this video clip is his usual speaking style I would last about 5 minutes in a service with him preaching. What is it with the screaming? Why do preachers think they have to do that to be powerful and effective or "annointed"? Arghhhh!!!!!
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How thankful I am that I was delivered from doing this!!
One of the funniest things to do would be to stand up in front of our church and preach like this. They would look at me as if I were from Mars.
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