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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
How do you really know that the pretty woman gave him everything he wanted? How can we know that and would she actually be honest about it?
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It's just my opinion, PO. I can't say for a fact they were honest (I'm only thinking of two women that I know personally), but it's based on the idea that they weren't prudes in their marriage BEFORE they found out their husband was cheating on them. Capiche? They talked about sex in warm, friendly tones. LOL! IOW, they didn't even know it was an issue.
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I'm leaving the men with men thing alone - YUCK!!! LOL! Again, I'm trying to focus on this particular scripture reference.
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But you can't leave all the possibilities alone, because you made a sweeping statement. You said, "It looks like both parties would be guilty - the one depriving and the one seeking elsewhere and committing adultery."
That statement assumes that where there is adultery, there is deprivation as a direct cause. That
isn't what the scripture says.
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I'm coming from the angle, after talking to a lot of women, that it appears to be their fault. At least the ones that have complained to me. They want to complain about him and his needs BUT after listening for a while, I find out it is their fault and they are trying to put the blame on him.
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Marital problems usually have contributing factors from both sides, but when a person actually commits a
sin, or is immoral, it is unfair to blame the other party for their
choice. Scripture places a
possibility for one party to be blamed for a
temptation. That's not the same as blaming them for the other person's
sinful choice.
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Of course, we can go into how a man makes you feel like an object and is a total turn off, but that isn't what I'm discussing here. 
You are right, Abigail - It is NOT always the reason someone cheats and I have never said that is was, but let's focus on the scripture, okay?
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That scripture does not illustrate that there are no innocent parties.
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IMO, it appears that if we do "deprive" another we are opening up that person to be tempted by Satan. Is that a sin on the "depriver's" part? That is the question. Let's focus on that.
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You're being bossy.
I'll focus on whatever I like, TYVM!
The very next verse lends some context:
I Corinthians 7:6 "But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment."
To me, Paul was saying, "Here's some wisdom--but it's my personal advice, not a commandment."
Meaning that--it's not a SIN for a woman to not have sex with her husband and vice versa. Is it wise? NO!!!!! But a sin? I don't think so.
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The scripture bears out that either party WILL be tempted by Satan if they are deprived. That means that God knows, even with a decision, it can happen. OR does the scripture, without actually saying, only focus on the weaker person being deprived as the one tempted? Is the one committing the adultery the only one to blame or is the "depriver" also to blame? IMO, the scripture appears to be pointing at the "depriver" as being party and part to the sin.
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No, it doesn't say they WILL be tempted. It just shows there's a possibility. Some women are cold fish, plain and simple. Right? They don't like sex--they just tolerate it. There could be reasons for it, but all the compassionate apologetics aside, they don't like sex. So, if their husbands "deny" them sex, are they definitely going to be tempted to cheat? No. LOL!!! They'll be relieved for the reprieve.
Regardless, I am the first to advocate this scripture be followed within a marriage. I know women who use sex as a weapon, and that should never happen in a Christian relationship. HOWEVER, sex is supposed to be something done willingly--not forcibly. So I don't think even God will command it to happen. If He did, husbands could force their Christian wives to comply. (by telling them they have to obey God and give them whatever they want) I'm sure everyone here has enough common sense to know that "defraud not" doesn't mean men and women can be inconsiderate of each other just to have their sexual needs met.
I understand what you're saying. Really. BUT, I don't think overwhelming data supports your conclusions (as to the causes of adultery), AND I don't think the scripture you're pointing to says that if someone commits adultery, it was
because his/her spouse defrauded them. It basically says that defrauding one another can cause
temptation.
On a sidenote: Today's men wouldn't know how to deal with OT sex. They only got it about 2 weeks out of the month ANYway.
Blessed art thou rg and highly favored among women...
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