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Old 10-16-2008, 10:22 AM
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Re: "Kill Him", "Treason", "Off With His Head!"

Getting back to the McCain rally. The following was in the St. Louis Dispatch this morning. One part I found especially interesting.

Critics in media conveniently ignore the angry left
BY COLLEEN CARROLL CAMPBELL
Thursday, Oct. 16 2008
After eight years of treating the radical left's foaming-at-the-mouth fury
against President George W. Bush as a respectable political posture, America's
media establishment has awakened to the dangers of partisan outrage — on the
right.

Recent media reports have bemoaned the "angry" tone of rallies for Republicans
Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin at which "rowdy crowds" have staged
"surreal scenes" featuring what one Washington Post report described as an
"outpouring of raw emotion rare in a presidential race." Apparently, the author
of that last phrase never attended a rally for Sen. Barack Obama, where
supporters have been known to faint and weep upon glimpsing The One.


Attuned as these reporters are to the wrath of the right, they seem to have
overlooked the rageaholic tendencies of the left. In the past week alone,
groups of Obama supporters spray-painted "Republican means slavery" on the door
of a South Carolina GOP office, used a Molotov cocktail to torch a McCain yard
sign in Portland, Ore., and arrived at a Palin rally in Pennsylvania sporting
T-shirts that described the governor as a four-letter word unprintable in a
family newspaper.

Such nastiness is dispiriting but unsurprising at the end of a hard-fought
race. When it gets this close to Election Day, fringe characters inevitably
emerge on both ends of the political spectrum.

Yet only one end of that spectrum is drawing the collective ire of mainstream
media reporters and commentators. Obama, who recently exhorted supporters to
confront Independents and Republicans and "argue with them and get in their
face," gets a pass for the strong-arm tactics of his allies on the angry left.
Meanwhile, McCain is blasted for fomenting partisan wrath, even though he has
corrected supporters at his rallies when they made comments that he considered
over the top.

Mainstream media outlets have given prominent coverage to comments such as
those of Democratic Rep. John Lewis of Georgia, who accused McCain of "sowing
the seeds of hatred and division" and compared him to segregationist Alabama
governor George Wallace. CNN pundit James Carville has clucked that he fears
the McCain crowds "could literally cause physical harm." New York Times op-ed
columnist Frank Rich has declared that McCain and Palin are playing "the race
card." His evidence: People at McCain-Palin rallies — although not the
candidates themselves — sometimes use Obama's middle name or shout out angry
retorts to speeches.

Ironically, the same critics seeking to concoct a scandal from a few stray
hecklers at McCain-Palin rallies howl in protest whenever McCain supporters
raise questions about Obama's much more intimate associations with dubious
characters. Whether the topic is Obama's 20-year friendship with racist,
anti-American pastor Rev. Jeremiah Wright, his political start in the living
room of unrepentant domestic terrorist William Ayers, his business dealings
with convicted felon Tony Rezko or his ties to ACORN, the advocacy group that
has been implicated in a nationwide voter-fraud scandal, the answer from
Obama's journalistic allies is always the same: That's a distraction.

When it comes to media elites in the grip of Obama-mania, it seems, every
criticism of their anointed candidate is a distraction. That bias is not lost
on voters. Much of the anger journalists bemoan among McCain supporters is
directed at them. As one man told the Washington Post, "You are treating
[Obama] like he's Britney Spears and covering him like he's Paris Hilton,
instead of the next president of the United States, potentially." Instead of
dismissing such criticism as partisan hysteria, media elites would do well to
listen and learn. If they truly want voters to take a more detached, clear-eyed
view of the candidates, they can begin by modeling that objectivity in
themselves and their own work.

Colleen Carroll Campbell is an author, television and radio host and St.
Louis-based fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center. Her website is
www.colleen-campbell.com.
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Old 10-16-2008, 10:24 AM
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Re: "Kill Him", "Treason", "Off With His Head!"

Whatever, i'm so tired of the whole mess.
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Old 10-16-2008, 01:14 PM
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IS THE "KILL HIM" STORY EVEN TRUE? APPARENTLY NOT
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Posted: October 15
Updated: Today at 10:14 AM
Secret Service says "Kill him" allegation unfounded

By Andrew M. Seder aseder@timesleader.com
Staff Writer

SCRANTON – The agent in charge of the Secret Service field office in Scranton said allegations that someone yelled “kill him” when presidential hopeful Barack Obama’s name was mentioned during Tuesday’s Sarah Palin rally are unfounded.

The Scranton Times-Tribune first reported the alleged incident on its Web site Tuesday and then again in its print edition Wednesday. The first story, written by reporter David Singleton, appeared with allegations that while congressional candidate Chris Hackett was addressing the crowd and mentioned Obama’s name a man in the audience shouted “kill him."

News organizations including ABC, The Associated Press, The Washington Monthly and MSNBC’s Countdown with Keith Olbermann reported the claim, with most attributing the allegations to the Times-Tribune story.

Agent Bill Slavoski said he was in the audience, along with an undisclosed number of additional secret service agents and other law enforcement officers and not one heard the comment.

...“We have yet to find someone to back up the story,” Slavoski said. “We had people all over and we have yet to find anyone who said they heard it.”

http://www.timesleader.com/news/brea...nfounded_.html

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Old 10-16-2008, 03:46 PM
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IS THE "KILL HIM" STORY EVEN TRUE? APPARENTLY NOT
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Posted: October 15
Updated: Today at 10:14 AM
Secret Service says "Kill him" allegation unfounded

By Andrew M. Seder aseder@timesleader.com
Staff Writer

SCRANTON – The agent in charge of the Secret Service field office in Scranton said allegations that someone yelled “kill him” when presidential hopeful Barack Obama’s name was mentioned during Tuesday’s Sarah Palin rally are unfounded.

The Scranton Times-Tribune first reported the alleged incident on its Web site Tuesday and then again in its print edition Wednesday. The first story, written by reporter David Singleton, appeared with allegations that while congressional candidate Chris Hackett was addressing the crowd and mentioned Obama’s name a man in the audience shouted “kill him."

News organizations including ABC, The Associated Press, The Washington Monthly and MSNBC’s Countdown with Keith Olbermann reported the claim, with most attributing the allegations to the Times-Tribune story.

Agent Bill Slavoski said he was in the audience, along with an undisclosed number of additional secret service agents and other law enforcement officers and not one heard the comment.

...“We have yet to find someone to back up the story,” Slavoski said. “We had people all over and we have yet to find anyone who said they heard it.”

http://www.timesleader.com/news/brea...nfounded_.html

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Unless I imagined it, the story is true! I saw the feed on CNN and they had the captions.

This is setting me up for attack by mentioning CNN, but the phrases I quoted, I heard.
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Unless I imagined it, the story is true! I saw the feed on CNN and they had the captions.

This is setting me up for attack by mentioning CNN, but the phrases I quoted, I heard.
Could you please post a link 1399?

I'd like to hear it myself.

The thing is, Obama's own secret service detail didn't hear it!!!!

The SS has conducted an investigation:

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Agent Bill Slavoski said he was in the audience, along with an undisclosed number of additional secret service agents and other law enforcement officers and not one heard the comment.

"I was baffled," he said after reading the report in Wednesday's Times-Tribune.

He said the agency conducted an investigation Wednesday, after seeing the story, and could not find one person to corroborate the allegation other than Singleton.

Slavoski said more than 20 non-security agents were interviewed Wednesday, from news media to ordinary citizens in attendance at the rally for the Republican vice presidential candidate held at the Riverfront Sports Complex. He said Singleton was the only one to say he heard someone yell "kill him."

"We have yet to find someone to back up the story," Slavoski said. "We had people all over and we have yet to find anyone who said they heard it."

Hackett said he did not hear the remark.
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The only person who heard the remark was the reporter? Mr. Singleton was interviewed by the Secret Service and "stands by his story." When contacted, Singleton referred people to his editor who claims "The facts reported are true and that’s really all there is.”

Except that's not all there is. This is a story that went viral, appearing on national cable nets and broadcast news channels as well as national magazines and hundreds if not thousands of blogs.

And now we find that the reporter - despite his protestations to the contrary - just made it up out of whole cloth in order to play into his overall theme that GOP crowds were "angry" and out of control?

Let's see how many media outlets who rushed this story on to the air or into print report on the Secret Service investigation. If they had a single ounce of integrity, they would apologize to the McCain-Palin campaign, the GOP, its supporters, and every single American who heard the story.
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Unless I imagined it, the story is true! I saw the feed on CNN and they had the captions.

This is setting me up for attack by mentioning CNN, but the phrases I quoted, I heard.
The Secret Service investigated it, and they decided the accusation is without merit. Why isn't that good enough for you?
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On this page, this is the video I was watching,the video played, captioned and quoted on CNN-- "kill him" is what I heard.

It's what I heard and CNN did have the caption underneath the video affirming what I heard.




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The Secret Service investigated it, and they decided the accusation is without merit. Why isn't that good enough for you?

This investigation took place in Scranton, PA.

The incident I am referring to happened in Florida at a rally while Gov Palin was speaking.


There are folks that deny tongue-talking to be a real legitimate experience. Folks can tell you otherwise, but you know the truth.


I know what I heard.

I wouldn't make this up.
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Unless I imagined it, the story is true! I saw the feed on CNN and they had the captions.

This is setting me up for attack by mentioning CNN, but the phrases I quoted, I heard.
A-ha!! ...so you're admitting that maybe you DID imagine it?

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This investigation took place in Scranton, PA.

The incident I am referring to happened in Florida at a rally while Gov Palin was speaking.

There are folks that deny tongue-talking to be a real legitimate experience. Folks can tell you otherwise, but you know the truth.

I know what I heard.

I wouldn't make this up.
Well, we know what you think you heard.

But, maybe the Secret Service would like to hear it too.
So why not just inform them (contact info is HERE) so they can verify this very serious information?

http://www.ustreas.gov/usss/contact.shtml

After you've contacted them, please let us know. You know we'll all be so proud of you for doing your civic duty.
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