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Old 08-04-2008, 02:44 PM
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Re: McCain Allows Daughter to Choose to Abort?

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Vr, what would be your response (your direct level of action and outrage), if you voted for politicians for decades in large part due to the fact that they were against killing 10 year old kids, then once they got into office on the back of that support, they did not stop the murders of those kids. What if in the year 2003 alone (well into the Presidency of such a politician and at a time when those politicians controlled the Hill and the majority of the Appointees to the Supreme Court), there were 854,122 documented cases of the killing of 10 year olds.
How many years would you blindly continue to support the patronizing lip-service that those politicians paid to such an atrocity. How long would you bash people who did not blindly support those politicians. How long could you claim some sort of spiritual or moral high ground because you do.
I am sick and tired of the abortion issue becoming just a box that people and politicians check off and feel sanctimonious about.
Stew, it's just a way to get votes.
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Old 08-04-2008, 02:47 PM
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Stew, it's just a way to get votes.
And by now, I think it should be abundantly obvious.
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Old 08-04-2008, 02:58 PM
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Vr, what would be your response (your direct level of action and outrage), if you voted for politicians for decades in large part due to the fact that they were against killing 10 year old kids, then once they got into office on the back of that support, they did not stop the murders of those kids. What if in the year 2003 alone (well into the Presidency of such a politician and at a time when those politicians controlled the Hill and the majority of the Appointees to the Supreme Court), there were 854,122 documented cases of the killing of 10 year olds.
How many years would you blindly continue to support the patronizing lip-service that those politicians paid to such an atrocity. How long would you bash people who did not blindly support those politicians. How long could you claim some sort of spiritual or moral high ground because you do.
I am sick and tired of the abortion issue becoming just a box that people and politicians check off and feel sanctimonious about.
I know the political process very well. It was the supreme court who decided to legislate from the bench and make abortion legal.

I also know that some of those Supreme Court justices were appointed by republicans, Reagan and Bush. I also know that before they were nominated to the court they opposed abortion. They changed their opinion after being appointed. Therefore, Reagan and Bush thought they were appointing people who opposed abortion.

I also know that republicans controlled the house and Senate for a time. However, at no time did they have enough majority to make legislation that would outlaw abortion.

However, they did pass many bills that made it more difficult to for doctors to perform abortions and for public funds to finance abortion.

I believe you must take each individual and look at their voting record. They can say what they want, but the vote does not lie.

therefore it should be a big issue in any election for a christian in choosing who to vote for.
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Old 08-04-2008, 03:04 PM
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I know the political process very well. It was the supreme court who decided to legislate from the bench and make abortion legal.

I also know that some of those Supreme Court justices were appointed by republicans, Reagan and Bush. I also know that before they were nominated to the court they opposed abortion. They changed their opinion after being appointed. Therefore, Reagan and Bush thought they were appointing people who opposed abortion.

I also know that republicans controlled the house and Senate for a time. However, at no time did they have enough majority to make legislation that would outlaw abortion.

However, they did pass many bills that made it more difficult to for doctors to perform abortions and for public funds to finance abortion.

I believe you must take each individual and look at their voting record. They can say what they want, but the vote does not lie.

therefore it should be a big issue in any election for a christian in choosing who to vote for.
Okay, I guess here's to hoping that McCain will stop the nearly 1 million annual abortions.
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I know the political process very well. It was the supreme court who decided to legislate from the bench and make abortion legal.

I also know that some of those Supreme Court justices were appointed by republicans, Reagan and Bush. I also know that before they were nominated to the court they opposed abortion. They changed their opinion after being appointed. Therefore, Reagan and Bush thought they were appointing people who opposed abortion.

I also know that republicans controlled the house and Senate for a time. However, at no time did they have enough majority to make legislation that would outlaw abortion.

However, they did pass many bills that made it more difficult to for doctors to perform abortions and for public funds to finance abortion.

I believe you must take each individual and look at their voting record. They can say what they want, but the vote does not lie.

therefore it should be a big issue in any election for a christian in choosing who to vote for.
And you still didn't address the question as to what your level of outrage or what actions you would take if indeed there were ten year olds being killed. Would you actually be this patient and understanding of the complexities and difficulties in stopping the nearly 1 million murders.
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Re: McCain Allows Daughter to Choose to Abort?

Wasn't Roe V Wade decided before Reagan took office?
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