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12-31-2007, 05:10 PM
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Who would have imagined something as worthy as a man building altars and GIVING them away would have been fodder for slamming Pentecostals and comparing them to Catholics again?
Unreal.
A new low.
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12-31-2007, 05:12 PM
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Who would have imagined something as worthy as a man building altars and GIVING them away would have been fodder for slamming Pentecostals and comparing them to Catholics again?
Unreal.
A new low.
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You are forgetting the first rool of AFF, don't get tunnel vision after reading just one post...
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12-31-2007, 05:13 PM
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You are forgetting the first rool of AFF, don't get tunnel vision after reading just one post...
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Bro, I have been around a while now.
I did read all of the posts.
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12-31-2007, 05:14 PM
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Apostolics often seem to make idols of their slogans, (and turn verses into slogans as well) so I guess incorporating tangible icons would be a short step for some.
Personally, most could use more structure. The closest thing to a ritual Jesus instituted was communion, a sacrament which Apostolics seem to observe least of all.
On the other hand, Apostolics have their own rituals, some of which they do not even recognize as such.
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Well, I think you are correct in some ways, we all do this. I do believe however there is a difference between an icon and an idol.
Just as the church upholds and advocates the use of landmarks and milestones, I do not believe they are encouraging worship of these things.
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12-31-2007, 05:14 PM
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Bro, I have been around a while now.
I did read all of the posts.
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Did you read mine? I was tossed in with the lot you were holding your torch against.
I thought it was a good idea.
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12-31-2007, 05:18 PM
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ultra con (at least here)
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Originally Posted by Carpenter
Well, I think you are correct in some ways, we all do this. I do believe however there is a difference between an icon and an idol.
Just as the church upholds and advocates the use of landmarks and milestones, I do not believe they are encouraging worship of these things.
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Agreed 100%. I have NO doubt that the pastor in this case had purest of motives, and it was a beautiful thing.
I believe others were discussing the subject generally, and in some cases the wires got crossed....
:-)
In some ways we actually need more rituals, but perhaps we also need to perhaps recognize the things which we have inadvertently turned into rituals.
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12-31-2007, 05:23 PM
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In some ways we actually need more rituals, but perhaps we also need to perhaps recognize the things which we have inadvertently turned into rituals.
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Rituals are not automatically bad when one knows what they represent, but they DO become something else when the ritual itself holds its own power.
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12-31-2007, 05:25 PM
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Rituals are not automatically bad when one knows what they represent, but they DO become something else when the ritual itself holds its own power.
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I was going to say something about hair, but...ya know...decided not to.
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12-31-2007, 05:29 PM
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Hair is the PERFECT example of a "symbol" having power in its own right!
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12-31-2007, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by James Griffin
Agreed 100%. I have NO doubt that the pastor in this case had purest of motives, and it was a beautiful thing.
I believe others were discussing the subject generally, and in some cases the wires got crossed....
:-)
In some ways we actually need more rituals, but perhaps we also need to perhaps recognize the things which we have inadvertently turned into rituals.
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It's not the motives being questioned ... pure as they were ... it's what's done w/ the relic that is being discussed.
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