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10-08-2010, 03:48 PM
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crakjak
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Re: Self Help Book Suggestion?
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Originally Posted by SeekingOne
You can't walk into this church. It is not open to you unless you are a member. They have "guards" at the entrance to the property and in the foyer of the building they meet at. Sound like a cult yet? Funny thing is, the community thinks they are sweet wonderful people, because they are. The public only knows how sweet they are, they don't know what actually goes on.
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Sounds like Heritage Homestead, or maybe Sherman?
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10-08-2010, 05:12 PM
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Love God, Love Your Neighbor
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Re: Self Help Book Suggestion?
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Sounds like Heritage Homestead, or maybe Sherman?
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What's Sherman?
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10-08-2010, 08:42 PM
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mary
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Re: Self Help Book Suggestion?
http://www2.psy.unsw.edu.au/Users/rr...ain%20ride.pdf
Another good article on the affects of ostracism, as compared to aggression and acceptance. It doesn't offer outright ways to deal with it, but a person might get some ideas on how to handle their own situation from it.
The first three pages are very revealing. The charts throughout the paper also have some very good information.
When people shun me, I write and talk and imagine. I imagine arguing with them and telling them off, even if I couldn't in person. I talk to others about the problem, and I write about the problem, coming to some sort of resolution at some point of either what I could do differently in the future or an understanding of what I did right. I also tend to focus on what the other person might think or feel and how my actions might impact their behavior. I didn't realize how much control that gave me until reading that paper.
One thing I've noticed... It's the ones that I smile and wave at that ignore me and act like I don't exist. When I don't notice someone, they are more likely to say hello... especially if they get the impression that I'm ignoring them. I'm not good at ignoring people, and don't recommend it, but the more your friend gets out, gets involved with other people, and enjoys him/herself, the less the shunning will affect him/her, and the less the person will probably actually be ignored.
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10-08-2010, 10:08 PM
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Re: Self Help Book Suggestion?
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Originally Posted by missourimary
http://www2.psy.unsw.edu.au/Users/rr...ain%20ride.pdf
Another good article on the affects of ostracism, as compared to aggression and acceptance. It doesn't offer outright ways to deal with it, but a person might get some ideas on how to handle their own situation from it.
...the more your friend gets out, gets involved with other people, and enjoys him/herself, the less the shunning will affect him/her, and the less the person will probably actually be ignored.
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Being shunned isn't so painful to those that leave Homestead, it would be more like running into your favorite blood relative and not being able to go up to them, hug them and things like that. You are reminded that you can't ever go to their house again, share holidays and special occasions, have them over for dinner, and share the love you have for each other ever again.
They feel pain too, they are just doing as they are told, and some don't shun but it doesn't ease the pain. It is easier on them though, because they still have the 100's of relatives that they can be with, they only lost a few people, and they believe that you will return if they treat you the way they are taught. They have hope, you have none.
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10-08-2010, 11:11 PM
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mary
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Re: Self Help Book Suggestion?
I've heard of Homestead and can only imagine.
No article or book is going to give your friend the exact answers that s/he needs. Every situation is different. On top of that, every person has a little different ways of learning and dealing with situations.
But for the last sentence, they have a kind of hope, but those who leave can have hope too. It's a different kind of hope, but it is hope.
I wish you and your friend the best.
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What we make of the Bible will never be as great a thing as what the Bible will - if we let it - make of us.~Rich Mullins
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.~Galileo Galilei
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10-09-2010, 01:31 AM
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Re: Self Help Book Suggestion?
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Originally Posted by SeekingOne
You can't walk into this church. It is not open to you unless you are a member. They have "guards" at the entrance to the property and in the foyer of the building they meet at. Sound like a cult yet? Funny thing is, the community thinks they are sweet wonderful people, because they are. The public only knows how sweet they are, they don't know what actually goes on.
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It sounds like they need a visit from Broken Pulpit Ministries. Where is this hell hole?
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10-09-2010, 09:23 AM
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crakjak
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Re: Self Help Book Suggestion?
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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*
What's Sherman?
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Texas
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10-09-2010, 09:25 AM
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crakjak
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Re: Self Help Book Suggestion?
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Originally Posted by SeekingOne
Being shunned isn't so painful to those that leave Homestead, it would be more like running into your favorite blood relative and not being able to go up to them, hug them and things like that. You are reminded that you can't ever go to their house again, share holidays and special occasions, have them over for dinner, and share the love you have for each other ever again.
They feel pain too, they are just doing as they are told, and some don't shun but it doesn't ease the pain. It is easier on them though, because they still have the 100's of relatives that they can be with, they only lost a few people, and they believe that you will return if they treat you the way they are taught. They have hope, you have none.
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There is a family in our church that escaped from Homestead, they are doing wonderfully. They seemed to be so free, and very in love with the Lord.
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10-09-2010, 10:10 AM
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Re: Self Help Book Suggestion?
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Originally Posted by crakjak
There is a family in our church that escaped from Homestead, they are doing wonderfully. They seemed to be so free, and very in love with the Lord.
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Did the wife finally come to her senses? Did Homestead Heritage finally just tell her that she would have to leave her husband if she wanted to continue to go to Friday night meetings?
Also, they don't live in Waco, so they are free from daily reminders - running into everyone at every turn every day. They also do not have family members still there that they are not allowed to see and talk to.
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10-09-2010, 11:52 AM
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Re: Self Help Book Suggestion?
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Texas
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Yes, I knew it was in Texas.... but is it a set-up like Homestead?
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