apostolic pastor leaves child in car that died. - Page 4

MissBrattified · #31 10-04-2010, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

My question in this is why couldn't God have told him that his daughter was in the car and about to die?

This Pastor was going about the Lord's work and the Lord let his baby die.

Seriously, JD? Do you think being a Christian means we don't have to deal with heartache and pain?

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I may be the only to verbalize this. However, I am sure that this thought has already come into his mind. It's a question that I don't have the answer for.

Do you?

It may cross his mind at some point if it hasn't already; let's hope he hangs on to trusting God instead, because that will be his lifeline. Some questions really don't have good answers, but choosing to trust God in spite of and in the midst of tragedy is a way to find peace, at least.

Personally, I would be less concerned about this man's propensity to blame God than his tendency to blame himself. It will take a lifetime for him to forgive himself, if it ever happens, and only with the help of God.

OnTheFritz · #32 10-04-2010, 11:02 PM

This is so horrible. I can see how it could happen, and it makes it even more terrifying. My dad recently found a kit that was developed by a group of TI engineers on their own time that has a simple alarm system based on a weight sensor in the carseat. It's surprising that safeguards like this aren't more common. It seems to happen a lot.

Baron1710 · #33 10-05-2010, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

My question in this is why couldn't God have told him that his daughter was in the car and about to die?

This Pastor was going about the Lord's work and the Lord let his baby die.

I may be the only to verbalize this. However, I am sure that this thought has already come into his mind. It's a question that I don't have the answer for.

Do you?

Why didn't God cause Hitler to be left in a car as a baby...?

This question just makes me realize there such a thing as dumb questions.

"The Lord let his baby die", this scenario that you have set up makes God responsible for every unjust death that ever occured because in your mind He could have prevented it.

Sister Alvear · #34 10-05-2010, 06:07 AM

things just happen because we are humans...I once forgot Michael at home...I thought one of the older kids picked him up...(Only had 23 kids at my house at that time...lol...got to church and he was not on anyone's lap...had to drive back home (45 minutes) to pick him up...thankfully he was still asleep....he was about 2....

Timmy · #35 10-05-2010, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

Why didn't God cause Hitler to be left in a car as a baby...?

This question just makes me realize there such a thing as dumb questions.

"The Lord let his baby die", this scenario that you have set up makes God responsible for every unjust death that ever occured because in your mind He could have prevented it.

But not in your mind?

coadie · #36 10-05-2010, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

My question in this is why couldn't God have told him that his daughter was in the car and about to die?

This Pastor was going about the Lord's work and the Lord let his baby die.

I may be the only to verbalize this. However, I am sure that this thought has already come into his mind. It's a question that I don't have the answer for.

Do you?

Wrong question.
The bible says be sober and vigilant. God asks us to be thinking and alert and use the mind he gave us. We all make errors of a forgetfull nature.
Why does God allow drivers to text while driving?

ManOfWord · #37 10-05-2010, 08:30 AM

God has entrusted things to us and I can't think of anything more important than people...especially the people in our families like children. I know mistakes happen, but seriously, a child left in the back seat of a car is quite a bit different than saying, "Honey, sorry I forgot the get the ice cream out of the car and it melted."

Where is our sensibility and sense of responsibility? It's a child! It's a human being! We are responsible for their lives. Their lives depend upon us! I'm sorry for the father and yes, he can be forgiven, but really bad choices have really bad consequences and now he's going to have to live it. No excuse whatsoever. I'm thankful for God's grace but there is no excuse whatsoever for this type of completely irresponsible behavior. I'm saddened and upset at the same time.

NotforSale · #38 10-05-2010, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord

God has entrusted things to us and I can't think of anything more important than people...especially the people in our families like children. I know mistakes happen, but seriously, a child left in the back seat of a car is quite a bit different than saying, "Honey, sorry I forgot the get the ice cream out of the car and it melted."

Where is our sensibility and sense of responsibility? It's a child! It's a human being! We are responsible for their lives. Their lives depend upon us! I'm sorry for the father and yes, he can be forgiven, but really bad choices have really bad consequences and now he's going to have to live it. No excuse whatsoever. I'm thankful for God's grace but there is no excuse whatsoever for this type of completely irresponsible behavior. I'm saddened and upset at the same time.

I agree and disagree with your view on this. Yes, we are responsible to care for these little people in our lives, but tragedy can fall upon the best of us.

I think we need to hear a little more about the story before drawing any harsh conclusions. I do know this; some people have a hard time remembering certain things, especially if they are weary or are on some type of medication.

From what others said in the video, this Pastor seemed to be a good man. At this point, the story is vague.

Mr. Smith · #39 10-05-2010, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord

God has entrusted things to us and I can't think of anything more important than people...especially the people in our families like children. I know mistakes happen, but seriously, a child left in the back seat of a car is quite a bit different than saying, "Honey, sorry I forgot the get the ice cream out of the car and it melted."

Where is our sensibility and sense of responsibility? It's a child! It's a human being! We are responsible for their lives. Their lives depend upon us! I'm sorry for the father and yes, he can be forgiven, but really bad choices have really bad consequences and now he's going to have to live it. No excuse whatsoever. I'm thankful for God's grace but there is no excuse whatsoever for this type of completely irresponsible behavior. I'm saddened and upset at the same time.

Wow.....can't believe what I'm reading here. How easy it is for you to bark, but how devastating it would be for you to fail greatly. I guess that's not possible for you. If indeed this man truly forgot, and I would think he did, how could anyone do anything except grieve for him? How could we throw stones at him? I don't understand that.

We know of a lady here in town who experienced this years ago and has nearly, literally, lost her mind. You gonna yell at her too and insinuate that she cared for her child no more than she cared for ice cream??? Wow.

coadie · #40 10-05-2010, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

Wow.....can't believe what I'm reading here. How easy it is for you to bark, but how devastating it would be for you to fail greatly. I guess that's not possible for you. If indeed this man truly forgot, and I would think he did, how could anyone do anything except grieve for him? How could we throw stones at him? I don't understand that.

We know of a lady here in town who experienced this years ago and has nearly, literally, lost her mind. You gonna yell at her too and compare her child to ice cream? Wow.

Intolerant of other posters again.

Some of us still take personal responsibility.