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09-17-2010, 12:57 AM
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Re: 1 Cor. 2: 15-16
Have a question regarding those particular scriptures written there.
Could someone tell me what they see Paul as saying there please?
Thanks.
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09-17-2010, 01:14 AM
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Re: 1 Cor. 2: 15-16
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Have a question regarding those particular scriptures written there.
Could someone tell me what they see Paul as saying there please?
Thanks.
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This is from the New Living Translation, verses 14-16:
14 But thank God! He has made us his captives and continues to lead us along in Christ’s triumphal procession. Now he uses us to spread the knowledge of Christ everywhere, like a sweet perfume.
15 Our lives are a Christ-like fragrance rising up to God. But this fragrance is perceived differently by those who are being saved and by those who are perishing.
16 To those who are perishing, we are a dreadful smell of death and doom. But to those who are being saved, we are a life-giving perfume. And who is adequate for such a task as this?
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To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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09-17-2010, 01:49 AM
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Re: 1 Cor. 2: 15-16
What are you thinking it means, Sandy?
When you look at those you know well, or even not so well, do you see mortals who are dying? Do you see flaws and idiosyncrasies?
MB's re-post of the NLT says (and in other versions as well) "to those being saved".. they perceive our life differently. I agree it's interesting. So many thoughts.... so many angles...
But, MB... did you paste the right verses? 1 Corinthians 2:15-16 or 2 Corinthians?
The unspiritual self, just as it is by nature, can't receive the gifts of God's Spirit. There's no capacity for them. They seem like so much silliness. Spirit can be known only by spirit—God's Spirit and our spirits in open communion. Spiritually alive, we have access to everything God's Spirit is doing, and can't be judged by unspiritual critics. Isaiah's question, "Is there anyone around who knows God's Spirit, anyone who knows what he is doing?" has been answered: Christ knows, and we have Christ's Spirit.
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09-17-2010, 08:04 AM
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Re: 1 Cor. 2: 15-16
to me that passage shows ---the power of god in our life. --we are in this world but not of it . we live by the spirit of god and walk in a higher realm than folks not spirit filled. how can they that do not have the spirit of god within them ,know the mind ,plan,or ways of god without his spirit to guide ,, we are clueless! just my opinion!
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09-17-2010, 11:00 AM
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Re: 1 Cor. 2: 15-16
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What are you thinking it means, Sandy?
When you look at those you know well, or even not so well, do you see mortals who are dying? Do you see flaws and idiosyncrasies?
MB's re-post of the NLT says (and in other versions as well) "to those being saved".. they perceive our life differently. I agree it's interesting. So many thoughts.... so many angles...
But, MB... did you paste the right verses? 1 Corinthians 2:15-16 or 2 Corinthians?
The unspiritual self, just as it is by nature, can't receive the gifts of God's Spirit. There's no capacity for them. They seem like so much silliness. Spirit can be known only by spirit—God's Spirit and our spirits in open communion. Spiritually alive, we have access to everything God's Spirit is doing, and can't be judged by unspiritual critics. Isaiah's question, "Is there anyone around who knows God's Spirit, anyone who knows what he is doing?" has been answered: Christ knows, and we have Christ's Spirit.
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LOL!!!!! I probably shouldn't post after 1 a.m.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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09-17-2010, 09:31 PM
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Re: 1 Cor. 2: 15-16
Miss B, no problem. I do stuff like that all the time no matter what time it is. LOL
My thoughts are it means we have the mind of Christ available to us because of Christ in us, which is our hope of glory of course. And therefore able to seek him about anything from then on, in order to begin to grow up in Christ daily from then on, as long as we do walk in the faith once we are born again.
Meaning IMV it does not mean that now I cannot be wrong in my understanding of scripture, once I have received this either. Because anyone that is wrong, could not have the mind of Christ. Which seems to be what some are saying today. And I believe they have become unbalanced in their understanding of what that scripture is saying.
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