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Old 07-23-2010, 02:01 PM
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Re: Your not Oneness but rather Patripassionist

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yes..Jesus was called the mighty God..but not Almighty God in that verse..huge difference
Big difference alright. TWO GODS! I hope you know your belief is not Oneness.
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Old 07-23-2010, 02:03 PM
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We believe Jesus is the Almighty God because Colossians 2:8 states that: Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudimens of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dewlleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Jesus said he was the almighty in Rev 1:8.
Rev 1:8-13 KJV I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. (9) I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. (10) I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, (11) Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. (12) And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; (13) And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
The son of man said he was Alpha and Omega, the Almighty.
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yes..Jesus was called the mighty God..but not Almighty God in that verse..huge difference
"The mighty God" is hugely different from "Almighty God"?

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"The mighty God" is hugely different from "Almighty God"?

Yes, if one does not believe they are one and the same God.
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Old 07-28-2010, 07:56 PM
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jesus said,before abraham was i am who was before abraham god himself jesus didnt come into being til after john the baptist,
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jesus said,before abraham was i am who was before abraham god himself jesus didnt come into being til after john the baptist,
Revelation 13:8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
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Re: Your not Oneness but rather Patripassionist

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Initial question...


You replied...

The question was... What (does) God in Christ mean.
You replied... God in the anointing.
God in ?
God in anointing.
By your answer you are calling the flesh the anointing.



I agree that God is the anointing. But that isn't what you have said in your posts. The question was... What (does) God in Christ mean. You answered God in the anointing.

That statements logical conclusion is ... Christ is the anointing.

Now... Christ IS the anointed one... but, in essence, you have stated with your answers that Christ is the anointing.

Please review your answers and let us know what you are saying because you are contradicting yourself.

(Sensing an "I'm not contradicting myself" reply here I will demonstrate your contradiction.)

Question presented...
What (does) God in Christ mean?
Your answer...
God in the anointing.

This answer taken to its logical conclusion...
Christ (flesh) is the anointing because God was in Christ and you state that God was IN the anointing ergo Christ (flesh) is the anointing.

Then you contradict yourself by stating...
God is the anointing... not flesh (which I agree with by the way)

The logical conclusion from your first answer is...
Christ (flesh) is anointing.
Your second statement is...
God is the anointing... not flesh.

So we don't even have a conversation here until you can clear up for us what your intended statement is/was.

I never said "Flesh," I said anointing.

The word "Christ" actually means anointing which eludes to the anointed one.

Christ=Anointing

Now if I said the man Christ Jesus I would be referring to the anointed man who was known as the Christ, God's anointed..
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Re: Your not Oneness but rather Patripassionist

=SRM;936758]David Benard teaches Jesus Christ had a DUAL nature which is a thought I do not agree with.Scripture is very clear who Jesus was..He no where claimed to be God not one time anytime nowhere.God cannot be seen,Jesus made known the Father to the world but to say when someone saw Jesus they were looking AT the Father in a human body IMHO is not scriptural


i agree srm.. fully. and i am oneness,,, the dual nature doctrine of err which benard teaches, is a 2 god doctrine ..or at leasst a very confused doctrine ..that simply cant make up their mind.
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Old 07-29-2010, 10:48 AM
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=faithit166;945242]jesus said,before abraham was i am who was before abraham god himself jesus didnt come into being til after john the baptist

can somebody say amen!



i know mnay that think the flesh is god and say they are oneness.
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Old 07-29-2010, 02:12 PM
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Re: Your not Oneness but rather Patripassionist

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Patripassionism is a Christian heresy from the time of the early church. Its adherents believe that God the Father was incarnate and suffered on the cross.
What if you do believe Jesus was the Father incarnate as a man, but do not believe that God (The Father ) died on the Cross, but only the man He became? Would that be Oneness?
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