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Old 07-13-2010, 04:49 PM
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I think you see this as a "gotcha moment" but I agree!

Not only do I agree, but I believe a primary goal in prayer is to achieve the humility needed to accept the will of God and be content therein. Through this process we very likely will voice our desires, wants and needs, however, true contentment is not found in perfect health and wealth but total trust and reliance on our creator in spite of circumstance.
What! You can't agree with me! Can you? Isn't that a rule?

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Im just looking at the life of Jesus. Jesus never failed to heal anyone ever that came to him wanting to be healed and had faith in Him. That is His character trait.
The life and ministry of Jesus on earth and the transitional era of time around the introduction of His gospel to the world was unique indeed.

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He is compassionate
Mat 9:35 And Jesus went throughout all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues and proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom and healing every disease and every affliction.
Mat 9:36 When he saw the crowds, he had compassion for them, because they were harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd.
Mat 9:37 Then he said to his disciples, "The harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few;
Mat 9:38 therefore pray earnestly to the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into his harvest."

And, he also wants us to do the same
Mat 10:1 And he called to him his twelve disciples and gave them authority over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal every disease and every affliction.

His compassion not only led to him healing them all but feeding them physically
Mat 14:14 When he went ashore he saw a great crowd, and he had compassion on them and healed their sick.
Mat 14:15 Now when it was evening, the disciples came to him and said, "This is a desolate place, and the day is now over; send the crowds away to go into the villages and buy food for themselves."
Mat 14:16 But Jesus said, "They need not go away; you give them something to eat."
Mat 14:17 They said to him, "We have only five loaves here and two fish."
Mat 14:18 And he said, "Bring them here to me."
Again, the introduction of the gospel message and the name of Jesus by the twelve Apostles commissioned directly in Christ's earthly ministry.

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I believe the problem we face today is that we really don't believe Him like we should.
I do not believe the church is weak or anemic as a whole. I think many have faith and believe with all that is within them - yet receive no healing. In fact I have witnessed this many times myself I think.

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For one thing, Jesus gave his disciples power. He gave the NT church gifts. What do we do today? With the exception of a few charismatics, we generally don't emphasize that. We don't encourage the building of faith. We don't encourage men and women to be consecrated for such works. People would rather watch American Idol than spend more time praying and fasting. It's not God's fault IMO

Now the crux of the matter... if one does NOT "get healed" we know God is not at fault. It must be the fault of those who are crippled, diseased and ill.

I think not. The "fault" is that of Adam through whom sin and sickness entered this world.

I believe this doctrine (God wants to heal everyone before you leave this building) is responsible for tearing down the faith of many and some even have abandoned their faith because, they reason, it does not "work".
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