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pelathais · #**581** 07-07-2010, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pro31:28

Does anyone else not see an interesting correlation here?

Religiously: clean up the outside, make yourself presentable to others- do not talk about what might be going on in your heart or your personal life because then you are "unspiritual"- At least that's what my former experience was. Is it so far a leap to think that someone who is taught to dress and act the part, would see a huge problem with claiming a degree to look better?

Maybe I am reaching here, I probably am, but there it seems that once you become good at pretending to be religious on the outside, the "props" just seems to come easier as well...
Just a thought.

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Originally Posted by Maximilian

I think that's a very worthy observation, and yes, one I was hinting at myself.

I definitely see a relationship.

Same here. We don't need to play "dress up."

MissBrattified · #**582** 07-07-2010, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Pro31:28

Does anyone else not see an interesting correlation here?

Religiously: clean up the outside, make yourself presentable to others- do not talk about what might be going on in your heart or your personal life because then you are "unspiritual"- At least that's what my former experience was. Is it so far a leap to think that someone who is taught to dress and act the part, would see a huge problem with claiming a degree to look better?

Maybe I am reaching here, I probably am, but there it seems that once you become good at pretending to be religious on the outside, the "props" just seems to come easier as well...
Just a thought.

Very interesting thoughts....

Standards · #**583** 07-07-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

Same here. We don't need to play "dress up."

So...do you walk around naked?

Jeffrey · #**584** 07-07-2010, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

Many theological seminaries had a requirement that those attending sign a confession of faith expressing belief in some form of the Doctrine of the Trinity.

As it relates to our Bible Schools getting accreditation, the national accrediting body for Bible Schools (I forget which acronym) had for years required acceptance of the doctrine of the Trinity as stated in their belief statement. In the past 20 or 30 years, there have been many "Independent" accrediting bodies pop up, but there have also been many scandals of academic credentials similar to the ones being discussed here.

Is this for graduate level coursework or undergrad as well? It's not happened to me yet. Others? Maybe we can have a tag in for those attending religious schools.

That sort of shennanigan really seems to undermine the academic objective. I've found more and more a safe environment to ask questions and put it out there. I can tell you that my belief concerning the godhead thus far has been a non-issue, and I even wrote a final paper criticizing the traditional view of the godhead (poking holes and asking questions of it). No backlash. In fact, I was put on the Dean's list of the college after that term. I'd have a much harder time in a Oneness school, questioning the doctrine of the Oneness... at least I'd think I would.

I see a day when we can just follow Jesus, and accept each other for where we were. Godhead theology or not. Different ideas about healing, prayer, faith... but that we were all following Jesus having these discussions in the umbrella of love and discipleship.

MissBrattified · #**585** 07-07-2010, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Standards

So...do you walk around naked?

Standards: In one sense of the word, walking around "naked" is a great idea.

Hoovie · #**586** 07-07-2010, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Pro31:28

Does anyone else not see an interesting correlation here?

Religiously: clean up the outside, make yourself presentable to others- do not talk about what might be going on in your heart or your personal life because then you are "unspiritual"- At least that's what my former experience was. Is it so far a leap to think that someone who is taught to dress and act the part, would see a huge problem with claiming a degree to look better?

Maybe I am reaching here, I probably am, but there it seems that once you become good at pretending to be religious on the outside, the "props" just seems to come easier as well...
Just a thought.

Interesting, but I think it's indeed a stretch to say those teaching dress standards and behavior standards are somehow more prone to touting unearned degrees. Conservative "holiness" groups aside, it appears these degree mills have flourished in society at large.

I actually believe a case could be made, that a large portion of the so-called "Holiness" groups view degrees and education in it's entirety with skepticism.

Jeffrey · #**587** 07-07-2010, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

Just for the sake of making it clear, I have not been scared off I just don't have the time today. And James if you and your friends persist in your criminal misrepresentation and threats, I will follow up on it.

JG? Ahem, this is what you refer to as a "call out."

We support you, Baron.

Jeffrey · #**588** 07-07-2010, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoovie

Interesting, but I think it's indeed a stretch to say those teaching dress standards and behavior standards are somehow more prone to touting unearned degrees. Conservative "holiness" groups aside, it appears these degree mills have flourished in society at large.

I actually believe a case could be made, that a large portion of the so-called "Holiness" groups view degrees and education in it's entirety with skepticism.

But it's an interesting trend in the conservative Holiness movement, as we've seen over the past week. Put the names down, examine the credentials. Yes, indeed, we could call it a "trend."

BTW, word has it that UGST is now fully accredited.

Jeffrey · #**589** 07-07-2010, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Standards

So...do you walk around naked?

The opposite of "dress up" is to "dress down." But nice try.

MissBrattified · #**590** 07-07-2010, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoovie

Interesting, but I think it's indeed a stretch to say those teaching dress standards and behavior standards are somehow more prone to touting unearned degrees. Conservative "holiness" groups aside, it appears these degree mills have flourished in society at large.

I actually believe a case could be made, that a large portion of the so-called "Holiness" groups view degrees and education in it's entirety with skepticism.

True, and that skepticism can bleed over into a disrespect for the educational process as a whole. And perhaps some narcissistic competition at play. ("I'm just as smart as he is, and I don't have a degree...oh, wait...I have one NOW.")