SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by mental

After all this, I would like to see some medical records showing that he was actually clinically dead for as long as he says he was. I am not saying it didn’t happen but at this point LS’s credibility is pretty low.

I have never wanted to speak out about it or question it....there's too many intangibles with it.....but I totally agree. My immediate reaction to it was, "Baloney." I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

[MissBrattified]

Jermyn, I understand. Really, I do. However, there is a BIG difference between being "sincerely wrong" about a doctrine and being deliberately dishonest about one's education.

Baron's investigation has been primarily into the legitimacy of Southern Eastern University, and in my opinion, it should continue. If they're bogus, then EVERYONE needs to know because apparently there are multiple ministers claiming degrees from that source. If you look at Art Wilson's page, he and his wife both claim degrees from Southern Eastern University. If the school is bogus, then all the degrees it has issued are bogus as well.

If they've all been duped into thinking they have legitimate degrees, then they need to know and need to take action against SEU. If they, however, are aware that it's a fraud and are deliberately showing off fraudulent credentials--THAT is a problem. That's deception and puffery, plain and simple.

And, I've never one time stated that I didn't like Lee Stoneking. One of the best Sunday School seminars I've ever been to was one in Missouri years ago where LS was the main speaker. I've always enjoyed his approach to exuberant worship, and his rather eccentric personality. I DO think he (and Ruth Reider) are way off base on their hair teachings, and I DO think he practices sloppy exegesis on a regular basis (and the latter isn't unique to LS). I'm disappointed in the UPCI leadership for not nipping it in the bud. I'm actually confused by it. Bro. Steve Epley is way more conservative than your average UPCer, and he had no problem stating that he disagreed with the teaching.

When you have people from all walks and flavors of Pentecost questioning a teaching, it lends quite a bit of credibility to the question. Women who want to cut their hair are most certainly not the only or the most vocal dissenters in this case.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Be careful, you might get sued.

Unless he has something to hide, why would he try?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by DAII

Bro, worst than that Knight claims to have hosted that Prophetic conference which can only mean he is or is pretending to be "Dr" Wilson.

This poster is from Michigan, yet he could be a member of this person's church and just saying he is Mr Wilson. Its happened before.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by notofworks

I have never wanted to speak out about it or question it....there's too many intangibles with it.....but I totally agree. My immediate reaction to it was, "Baloney." I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

SEE UPCI LEADERSHIP!!! THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T POLICE YOUR OWN!

When I was a Lance Corporal in the Marines, I would have preferred to be approached by my Corporal or Sergeant if I was messed up.

Quick corrections made in house prevents the whole unit from looking ate up to our superiors in command and those outside of our command!


No one wants to be a part of an ate up unit!
God forbid you are the Marine that gives your unit a bad name!

[DAII]

Well this is more than SEU since LS had that degree pulled from his website. It has been replaced by a doctorate from the Institute.

Where Dr Wilson also states he teaches and helps monitor.

"Dr. Wilson currently assists as an adjunct faculty member of an Institute of Christian Works Bible College as an overseer of examination proctoring and invigilation."

[MissBrattified]

Jermyn, I think you're overreacting. Baron has been documenting his investigation into Southern Eastern University. Anyone who claims a degree from that University will be affected negatively, if his suspicions turn out to be correct.

If his suspicions ARE confirmed, then I agree with you--it should be reported directly to UPCI leadership in the form of a formal complaint.

[DAII]

Sometimes things just fall on your lap.

Thanks, Knight!

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Jermyn, I think you're overreacting. Baron has been documenting his investigation into Southern Eastern University. Anyone who claims a degree from that University will be affected negatively, if his suspicions turn out to be correct.

If his suspicions ARE confirmed, then I agree with you--it should be reported directly to UPCI leadership in the form of a formal complaint.

If I am overreacting, it wouldn't be the first time.

Just pray for me-- I'm going to go drink some warm milk to calm my colic.

[Jermyn Davidson]