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06-25-2010, 09:45 PM
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Re: When did "slain in the spirit" first begin?
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I wonder if 'running the aisles' is akin to 'slain in the spirit'. Scripturally, I mean.
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Absolutely....right along with "Dancing in the Spirit". That one isn't in there, either!
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06-25-2010, 10:20 PM
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Re: When did "slain in the spirit" first begin?
I think both can be a reaction to the overwhelming presence of God. Dancing or slain in the spirit as it's called. Just outward expressions.
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06-25-2010, 10:27 PM
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Re: When did "slain in the spirit" first begin?
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I agree!! I actually heard a "preacher" give tips on how to "help" people fall backwards. One of the things was to call someone up...a catcher....and tell the person that it was ok to fall when the power of God hit them. He said he was helping them facilitate the power of God. Whatever. It was just the power of suggestion.
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On the 'Things Apostolics Like' blog, he does a section on 'catchers'.
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06-25-2010, 10:34 PM
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Re: When did "slain in the spirit" first begin?
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On the 'Things Apostolics Like' blog, he does a section on 'catchers'. 
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Where is that?
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Re: When did "slain in the spirit" first begin?
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Where is that?
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Re: When did "slain in the spirit" first begin?
Luk 5:10 And so was also James, and John, the sons of Zebedee, which were partners with Simon. And Jesus said unto Simon, Fear not; from henceforth thou shalt catch men.
Simon Peter, one of the first catchers in the bible.
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06-25-2010, 10:58 PM
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Re: When did "slain in the spirit" first begin?
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 That's great stuff!
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06-25-2010, 11:21 PM
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Re: When did "slain in the spirit" first begin?
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Absolutely....right along with "Dancing in the Spirit". That one isn't in there, either!
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I quoted myself below from another thread (Self-indulging, I know  ). Seemed relevant.
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If this is the reason for coming to church, you leave just the same as you came. There is no progression in faith or milk to meat maturity.
That being said, emotionalism or "feeling" is certainly apart of a response. We can mock it or make light of it, however, a fleshly response to His spirit is not abnormal. We can categorize such as outlandish or "there is nothing spiritual about that!"
You mentioned David and I think its important to point out that the Bible never says that David danced "in the spirit." It says he danced before the Lord. What was this dancing? Again, I say it is a fleshly (emotional) response to a spiritual occurrence. In fact, in Psalms 149 and 150 tells us "praise his name in the dance" and "Praise him with the timbrel and dance."
I am not sure you can correlate the new birth experience, the display of tongues and the absence of the mention of dancing to say that we should not because it is not mention side by side with it. If you really think about it, repentance is a fleshly response to a spiritual dealing with our heart and soul. It takes an active response (either physically coming to an altar or making a choice in our minds) to repent.
Needless to say, I do believe there are actions of the flesh that are used in praise and worship. Do I believe a man can exercise his praise through running the aisles? Sure. Do I believe it is done "in the spirit?" No. "Do I believe it can be done in spirit-mindedness? Absolutely!
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Re: When did "slain in the spirit" first begin?
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I quoted myself below from another thread (Self-indulging, I know  ). Seemed relevant.
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Cool! But I seeing "Running the aisles" as disrespectful, self-indulgent, look-at-me, showboating. I see pretty much all of the "Dancing in the Spirit" the same way. There's a BIG problem when we sit a Denny's after church service, eating 12 pounds of food, saying things like, "Did you see that lady in the third row on the second verse of "I'm just Warmin' Up"?
We're not supposed to notice the lady in the third row.
And of course, we're not supposed to sing songs like, "I'm Just Warmin' Up." What an arrogant piece of drivel that is.
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Re: When did "slain in the spirit" first begin?
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On the 'Things Apostolics Like' blog, he does a section on 'catchers'. 
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"Catchers" is not found in the Scriptures as an office like deacon, elder, bishop, apostle, prophet, etc.
Nor is "catching" listed by name as one of the gifts of the Spirit in 1 Corinthians 12, Romans 12, and Ephesians 4. Possibly it is covered under "helps" in 1 Corinthians 12:28.
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