How To Ruin a Legacy

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Consapostolic1

Perhaps they shouldn't automatically pass it to their children and pass it to someone that they know shares their vision. Jus sayin

That's assuming the founder had a vision to begin with. There are many greats out there, I know; but there is also a sad trend over the years of just a bunch of guys going out to argue their conspiracy theories and calling it "evangelism."

From my own experience across at least a couple of districts, in Bible School, at WEC and serving in different capacities, I'd have to say that the one thing that characterized the UPC over the past 30 years has been a definite lack of vision.

Everything always seemed to be rooted in a "hunker down and survive" sort of policy. Very little emphasis was ever placed upon the "next generation" - despite many attempts to hype that very thing. Everything was just curdled in a stagnant clot and anything different was viewed with suspicion.

I'm old enough to remember when the use of personal computers for book keeping was frowned upon. The ease and productivity quickly overwhelmed the naysayers, but I still hear grumbling today.

I was criticized for using "computers" to "get my sermons" back in the days of DOS and my old 8088. It's this mindset that is destroying the Oneness movement. This is in fact the "Mark of the Beast."

"Here is wisdom..." Revelation 13:18 compared with Daniel 3.

The UPC has the "Mark of the Beast." They are responsible for perpetuating the same sin that Nebuchadnezzar accomplished in Daniel 3.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Esther

I thought this thread was going to be about churches losing ground when the founder past it on.

Sometimes it is hard to pass on the vision. If the children have the attitude this is "due" me they tend to let it decline, if they have the same "vision" as the founder it usually will thrive.

It could be. The restaurant situation could be a metaphor for other things

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Consapostolic1

Perhaps they shouldn't automatically pass it to their children and pass it to someone that they know shares their vision. Jus sayin

The problem might have been that it was passed to several children and they all wanted a piece of the action (more money), so they bought cheaper goods and raised prices, neglected the "family" atmosphere Sal made it and thought a spiffy new building would bring more patrons in

[Praxeas]

Did the UPC need to "improve" upon the original merger agreement? Improve on outreach, improve on the fruit,love, improve on the gifts, improve on knowledge...but apparently some thought the UPC needed improving in a way that contradicts the original merger

Sal's restaurant worked. It worked fantastically. People came from Los Angeles just to eat at Sals. People heard from friends that if they were ever near by on a visit or vacation, to go to Sals. It was always busy and on weekends, always full. Someone played with success and screwed it up

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Did the UPC need to "improve" upon the original merger agreement? Improve on outreach, improve on the fruit,love, improve on the gifts, improve on knowledge...but apparently some thought the UPC needed improving in a way that contradicts the original merger

Sal's restaurant worked. It worked fantastically. People came from Los Angeles just to eat at Sals. People heard from friends that if they were ever near by on a visit or vacation, to go to Sals. It was always busy and on weekends, always full. Someone played with success and screwed it up

An excellent observation. I am saddened that I never got to visit your old Sal's restaurant. There's this one Mexican restaurant here that hasn't gone down the tubes - but you have to wait in line on Sundays. It's that good.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by pelathais

An excellent observation. I am saddened that I never got to visit your old Sal's restaurant. There's this one Mexican restaurant here that hasn't gone down the tubes - but you have to wait in line on Sundays. It's that good.

Awesome. Man, this place had been in business since the 50s. It's really sad to see that it degenerated and closed down