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Old 04-21-2010, 07:10 AM
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Re: Oneness or Twoness Mailout from Joel Hemphill

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Maybe I'm wrong but somebody said that the Elder Hemphill was agains't organization.I understand alot of Old Pentecostal Preachers didn't like organization,some even considered it Babylon.
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Old 04-21-2010, 03:56 PM
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Re: Oneness or Twoness Mailout from Joel Hemphill

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Joel Hemphill is now teaching that:
Jesus is a separate person from God.
Jesus is not God.

Does that make him Twoness?
Or Jehovah's Witness?
Joel Hemphill teaches Dynamic Monarchism .
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Old 04-21-2010, 06:39 PM
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Re: Oneness or Twoness Mailout from Joel Hemphill

He's either an Arian or an Adoptionist?
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Old 04-22-2010, 02:24 PM
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Re: Oneness or Twoness Mailout from Joel Hemphill

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How exactly did Jesus PRe exist His fleshly birth?
As God.
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Joel Hemphill teaches Dynamic Monarchism .
monarchism teaches that Jesus was not divine, but was a man fully endowed with the Holy Spirit

Ummm have you ever read Acts 2?

Act 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

How about Acts 4:27?

Act 4:27 For of a truth against[I] thy [/I]holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together,

Then what about Acts 10:38?

Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.


I would not call it Monarchism..I call it scripture
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Re: Oneness or Twoness Mailout from Joel Hemphill

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monarchism teaches that Jesus was not divine, but was a man fully endowed with the Holy Spirit

Ummm have you ever read Acts 2?

Act 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

How about Acts 4:27?

Act 4:27 For of a truth against[i] thy [/I]holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together,

Then what about Acts 10:38?

Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.


I would not call it Monarchism..I call it scripture
So you are saying you deny Jesus is God but was just a man anointed by God?
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Old 04-23-2010, 05:23 AM
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Re: Oneness or Twoness Mailout from Joel Hemphill

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So you are saying you deny Jesus is God but was just a man anointed by God?
I did not say anything.I simply posted a few scriptures.Kind of shocking to find out that these are in our Bibles huh?How many times have we read these and never paid attention to what was REALLY being said?

Acts 4..We know the story,the disciples returned from the council meeting because the lame man at the gate was healed and they were told to teach or preach no more in the name of Jesus right?..

Look at what happens when they return and notice to who they are adressing their prayer,here we go...


Act 4:23 And being let go, they went to their own company, and reported all that the chief priests and elders had said unto them.
Act 4:24 And when they heard that, they lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said, Lord, thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is:
Act 4:25 Who by the mouth of thy servant David hast said, Why did the heathen rage, and the people imagine vain things?
Act 4:26 The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ.
Act 4:27 For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together,
Act 4:28 For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done.
Act 4:29 And now, Lord, behold their threatenings: and grant unto thy servants, that with all boldness they may speak thy word,
Act 4:30 By stretching forth thine hand to heal; and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of thy holy child Jesus.
Act 4:31 And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.

Is it just me or did they direct their prayer to God the Father?

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