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Old 03-30-2010, 10:51 AM
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Social Security Reached the Tipping Point Early

How ironic that, even as the Senate last week debated the reconciliation "fixes" to ObamaCare, word came that Social Security has reached the so-called tipping point -- years ahead of schedule. For the first time, Social Security will pay out more in benefits than it receives in tax revenue, to the tune of $29 billion. The reason: Continued high unemployment means there are fewer paychecks from which to deduct Social Security taxes. Meanwhile, many who can't find work are applying for benefits much earlier than they'd planned.

The so-called tipping point wasn't supposed to arrive until 2017, according to current congressional projections. And it also means that the ultimate day of reckoning -- when Social Security runs out of money unless something is done to stabilize the system -- has been pushed ahead by four years, to 2037. So is this really the time for the US to be setting out on a trillion-dollar entitlement adventure filled with so many unknowns and untested elements? And, more important, whose ultimate financial impact on the sky-high -- and still soaring -- national debt is open to so much question? You'd think not.

But President Obama and congressional Democrats don't seem to have gotten the message. Which is that even beyond the inherent costs of a system like Social Security, unsettled economic conditions can have a swift and unexpected impact. Budget estimators predicted that unemployment would average 8.2 percent last year and 8.8 percent this year. Instead, it remains at about 10 percent.

No, Social Security isn't running out of money just yet: Thanks to some fixes a quarter-century ago and past robust economies, the system maintains a balance of $2.5 trillion. But with annual payments now running in the red, that balance will slowly be depleted. And, by law, Social Security can't pay out more money in any given year than it has in its balance. In other words, it cannot print money. The same could well hold true for ObamaCare, once its payments fully kick in down the line.

Is Congress paying attention?
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Old 03-30-2010, 02:22 PM
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Re: Social Security Reached the Tipping Point Earl

Personally, I cannot believe that our elected officials in Washington have not read the message. Many politicians may be dumb or even stupid, but not illiterate. What we have today (and what these same people are promising more of for tomorrow) cannot be by accident - it has to be (1) with clear knowledge and (2) on purpose.

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Old 04-21-2010, 10:07 AM
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Re: Social Security Reached the Tipping Point Earl

Sadly the best and brightest are slowly but surely moving and working overseas. an observation only.


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How ironic that, even as the Senate last week debated the reconciliation "fixes" to ObamaCare, word came that Social Security has reached the so-called tipping point -- years ahead of schedule. For the first time, Social Security will pay out more in benefits than it receives in tax revenue, to the tune of $29 billion. The reason: Continued high unemployment means there are fewer paychecks from which to deduct Social Security taxes. Meanwhile, many who can't find work are applying for benefits much earlier than they'd planned.

The so-called tipping point wasn't supposed to arrive until 2017, according to current congressional projections. And it also means that the ultimate day of reckoning -- when Social Security runs out of money unless something is done to stabilize the system -- has been pushed ahead by four years, to 2037. So is this really the time for the US to be setting out on a trillion-dollar entitlement adventure filled with so many unknowns and untested elements? And, more important, whose ultimate financial impact on the sky-high -- and still soaring -- national debt is open to so much question? You'd think not.

But President Obama and congressional Democrats don't seem to have gotten the message. Which is that even beyond the inherent costs of a system like Social Security, unsettled economic conditions can have a swift and unexpected impact. Budget estimators predicted that unemployment would average 8.2 percent last year and 8.8 percent this year. Instead, it remains at about 10 percent.

No, Social Security isn't running out of money just yet: Thanks to some fixes a quarter-century ago and past robust economies, the system maintains a balance of $2.5 trillion. But with annual payments now running in the red, that balance will slowly be depleted. And, by law, Social Security can't pay out more money in any given year than it has in its balance. In other words, it cannot print money. The same could well hold true for ObamaCare, once its payments fully kick in down the line.

Is Congress paying attention?
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Re: Social Security Reached the Tipping Point Earl

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How ironic that, even as the Senate last week debated the reconciliation "fixes" to ObamaCare, word came that Social Security has reached the so-called tipping point -- years ahead of schedule. For the first time, Social Security will pay out more in benefits than it receives in tax revenue, to the tune of $29 billion. The reason: Continued high unemployment means there are fewer paychecks from which to deduct Social Security taxes. Meanwhile, many who can't find work are applying for benefits much earlier than they'd planned.

The so-called tipping point wasn't supposed to arrive until 2017, according to current congressional projections. And it also means that the ultimate day of reckoning -- when Social Security runs out of money unless something is done to stabilize the system -- has been pushed ahead by four years, to 2037. So is this really the time for the US to be setting out on a trillion-dollar entitlement adventure filled with so many unknowns and untested elements? And, more important, whose ultimate financial impact on the sky-high -- and still soaring -- national debt is open to so much question? You'd think not.

But President Obama and congressional Democrats don't seem to have gotten the message. Which is that even beyond the inherent costs of a system like Social Security, unsettled economic conditions can have a swift and unexpected impact. Budget estimators predicted that unemployment would average 8.2 percent last year and 8.8 percent this year. Instead, it remains at about 10 percent.

No, Social Security isn't running out of money just yet: Thanks to some fixes a quarter-century ago and past robust economies, the system maintains a balance of $2.5 trillion. But with annual payments now running in the red, that balance will slowly be depleted. And, by law, Social Security can't pay out more money in any given year than it has in its balance. In other words, it cannot print money. The same could well hold true for ObamaCare, once its payments fully kick in down the line.

Is Congress paying attention?
I don't understand what they are doing or thinking. It's like going out and buying a new car after you found out you've been fired. But, then, when there's a printing press in the garage, maybe it doesn't matter to them.
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