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Old 04-08-2010, 01:51 PM
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As much as I dislike TW, I hope people just leave him alone and let him play. Hope there aren't demonstrators or flybys with messages. Mostly because there are others playing besides him.

This is the Masters. It's bigger than TW and shouldn't be sullied by protests. Do that somewhere else.

I neither like nor dislike Tiger. I find the facination with him in this current mess to be disgusting.

I dont think there was anything that should have been reported on at all. Peoples private lives should be just that.

at the same time, I find it beyond disgusting that people would be freaking out happy that he is "back" and that he has "overcome" something.

The proper thing ought to be to treat him like he was treated before. period.

I know there arent many of us out here but I never have understood the desire to get into other peoples lives.
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His facination is with TW as the golf player, not the other.
being choked up indicates something else.
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This gave me that embarrassed feeling (for him and his family), looking at that.
Personally it disgusts me and demonstrates the incredibly shallow character of Mr. Woods. Any man who would use and marr the memory and image of his father in a blatant attempt reconstruct his marketing image is clearly a man who has not learned anything from his 'sabatical' This whole thing is about money pure and simple. I feel sorry for his kids. They get to grow up knowing that what matters is the money. Don't worry about anybody else but yourself.
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uhm, i used the word "sick" before. that implies something a bit more strong that I intended. I dont think NOW is menatlly defencent or that his attitude toward Tiger represents moral failure on NOW's part. for that I appologize.

I do think it is a strange view that I cannot identify with. Not because I have an issue with Tiger. I dont.
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Spoken like a true, sanctimonious, self-righteous, holier-than-thou. My admiration is with a great golfer. He had a problem with sin, just like you've had. However, I don't think any less of you because of it.

There are reasons I like Tiger Woods. I don't need to explain it to you.
No you don't have to explain anything to me.

While I'm fortunate that I have been forgiven of my failings, I endeavor to prevent future ones by admiring people with character.

I'm just different I guess.
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being choked up indicates something else.
clearly

That much emotion isn't generated because someone can swing a 3 wood successfully. There is more at play here
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My family has an emotional connection to Tiger. It's not appropriate that I expound. But I also see Tiger through the eyes of grace and I'd like to treat him just like I would want to be treated if I ever screwed something up terribly. And it's possible. I just might make a mess of my life, at some point, because I'm a fallible human being. If it's not possible that any of you would ever screw it up terribly, then you're better than me.
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My family has an emotional connection to Tiger. It's not appropriate that I expound. But I also see Tiger through the eyes of grace and I'd like to treat him just like I would want to be treated if I ever screwed something up terribly. And it's possible. I just might make a mess of my life, at some point, because I'm a fallible human being. If it's not possible that any of you would ever screw it up terribly, then you're better than me.
First, your connection to Tiger is someting that no one knew before this post.

that is different.

but the point yoiu are making about the rest of us isnt valid at all.

I have said repeatedly that Tiger didnt do anythign that I find a need for him to repent to me for, or for me to hold against him. his life is his own. It should have never been made public in the first place.

however, lets also make clear, he has not experienced grace on any level.
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First, your connection to Tiger is someting that no one knew before this post.

that is different.

but the point yoiu are making about the rest of us isnt valid at all.

I have said repeatedly that Tiger didnt do anythign that I find a need for him to repent to me for, or for me to hold against him. his life is his own. It should have never been made public in the first place.

however, lets also make clear, he has not experienced grace on any level.

On ANY level? Of course he has. From his mother, from his wife, from a few of his sponsors, from me, from many close to him.

My emotional connection to him is irrelevant to this discussion. I told you privately because I wanted you to know...you called me "sick" and I wanted you to know that I disagreed. My family has no emotional connection to Tim Lincecum but when he was busted for pot, it didn't change how much I like him or the way he plays the game. Same with Barry Bonds and all his junk.

The point I'm making about the rest of you IS totally valid. You're a human, so is Tiger, and if you ever do totally screw up your life, you'll appreciate someone like me who unconditionally loves, accepts, forgives, and admires. Ferd, despite the way you feel about me, I love you, accept you, believe in you, and receive you and nothing you could tell me about yourself could change that.

And I can say the same about Tiger.
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On ANY level? Of course he has. From his mother, from his wife, from a few of his sponsors, from me, from many close to him.

My emotional connection to him is irrelevant to this discussion. I told you privately because I wanted you to know...you called me "sick" and I wanted you to know that I disagreed. My family has no emotional connection to Tim Lincecum but when he was busted for pot, it didn't change how much I like him or the way he plays the game. Same with Barry Bonds and all his junk.

The point I'm making about the rest of you IS totally valid. You're a human, so is Tiger, and if you ever do totally screw up your life, you'll appreciate someone like me who unconditionally loves, accepts, forgives, and admires. Ferd, despite the way you feel about me, I love you, accept you, believe in you, and receive you and nothing you could tell me about yourself could change that.

And I can say the same about Tiger.

Grace of God bro. the Grace of God.... he is a buddist.
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