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Old 03-21-2010, 04:05 PM
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Not one of you defended Oneness doctrine, Renda. Every one of you tore down Oneness doctrine and promoted Trintarianism.

Go read the thread. I was very, very kind. Yet my beliefs were mocked. I was told that unless I tolerated Trinitarianism, I was somehow evil.
I'm not sure what you are calling "Oneness doctrine." I tend to quit reading posts on "the Godhead" because they become very detailed and confusing to me. Each poster seems to disagree with and often put down the other posters. I believe that God is a single Spirit being who fills all space and time and Who came to us in the person of His Son Jesus Christ, and now lives in us as the Holy Spirit. Therefore God is simultaneously Father, Son, and Holy Spirit but is one God. To some folks that is the doctrine of the trinity and to others it is the doctrine of oneness or Jesus only. I don't like labels like "trinitarian" or "oneness." It is my opinion that most folks pretty much believe the same about God whether we label ourselves "oneness" "trinitarian."
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Since it is not April fools day I am checking to see if it is a full moon. If it is not next step is to call EA's wife and make sure he has not stopped taking his meds!
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Old 03-21-2010, 04:08 PM
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Lighten up on those guys? What? It is a rare thing to hear a Trin being personally attacked. We do attack the DOCTRINE of the Trinity every now and then . This at least used to be a forum that was based on the understanding that only one YHWH exists in the Universe and that he was and is manifest to us as Yeshua Messiah.

The real pressure on the forum is on Oneness believers. Proud, arrogant, deluded, ect....
Yep, you can say that again!
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Old 03-21-2010, 04:10 PM
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Lighten up on those guys? What? It is a rare thing to hear a Trin being personally attacked. We do attack the DOCTRINE of the Trinity every now and then . This at least used to be a forum that was based on the understanding that only one YHWH exists in the Universe and that he was and is manifest to us as Yeshua Messiah.

The real pressure on the forum is on Oneness believers. Proud, arrogant, deluded, ect.....
I am against the doctrine of the trinity. It is error plain & simple. However, I do believe one can be a trinitarian, and be a Christian. They just have an incomplete view of exactly WHO Jesus is.
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Old 03-21-2010, 04:15 PM
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This is a personal appeal to my AFF friends.

I ask everyone who believes in the Oneness of God, baptism in the name of Jesus, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost to choose a different forum home, from this point on.
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I believe in one God and I also believe that God is one. I believe in baptism in Jesus' name and I believe in the infilling of the Holy Ghost.

I was justified/saved/born again on March 28, 1955 when, at the age of 17, I asked Jesus Christ to come into my heart.

I was baptized in the name of Jesus Christ on October 27, 1955 at Elim Tabernacle (UPC) in Milwaukee, WI.

I was baptized in the Holy Ghost on Pentecost Sunday May 20, 1956 at Bethel Tabernacle (UPC) in Racine, WI.

I believe in Acts 2:38. I believe I have experienced all three experiences of Acts 2:38:
1. salvation
2. water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ
3. baptism in the Holy Ghost

I've experienced all three of those experiences, however, I do not believe I was any more saved after water baptism nor after Spirit baptism than I was before.

Not everyone on this forum agrees with my understanding of Acts 2:38 but it is a valid belief held by many who call themselves Apostolic, Pentecostal, Charismatic, Full Gospel or just Christian.

Some times I may come off a little caustic in some of my comments here but I do not doubt the salvation or sincerity of those who do not see things the way I do.

Each of us here who loves the Lord and His Word is as important as any other on this forum. We need to do a better job of disagreeing without being disagreeable and a better job of contending without being contentious.
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I believe that God is a single Spirit being who fills all space and time and Who came to us in the person of His Son Jesus Christ, and now lives in us as the Holy Spirit. Therefore God is simultaneously Father, Son, and Holy Spirit but is one God.
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I was justified/saved/born again on March 28, 1955 when, at the age of 17, I asked Jesus Christ to come into my heart.

I was baptized in the name of Jesus Christ on October 27, 1955 at Elim Tabernacle (UPC) in Milwaukee, WI.

I was baptized in the Holy Ghost on Pentecost Sunday May 20, 1956 at Bethel Tabernacle (UPC) in Racine, WI.
Really, Sam. Do you have to take EVERY opportunity to post this??
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Old 03-21-2010, 04:19 PM
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This is a personal appeal to my AFF friends.

I ask everyone who believes in the Oneness of God, baptism in the name of Jesus, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost to choose a different forum home, from this point on.

AFF has become a place that actively mocks my beliefs. On the most recent thread I started, every admin that participated defended Trinitarianism and actively posted against Oneness doctrine.

Again, this place is now enemy territory. It exists solely to tear down basic doctrinal truths.

This thread will be removed, I'm quite sure.

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Ed,
Have I offended you? If so, please let me know what I've said that offended you.
You have not offended me.

We disagree, but I am not offended by anything you've posted.
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