What is Adultery? - Page 15

Thumper · #**141** 03-18-2010, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

I think it's taken out of context.

Here it is in context.

Matthew 19:8-11
(8) He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
(9) And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
(10) His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry.(11) But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.

*AQuietPlace* · #**142** 03-18-2010, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

This verse:

New Living Translation:
So an elder must be a man whose life is above reproach. He must be faithful to his wife. He must exercise self-control, live wisely, and have a good reputation. He must enjoy having guests in his home, and he must be able to teach.

How do we apply it? What does it mean?

A good reputation is something you work towards and earn. And you can lose it.

A good reputation can be regained, too, of course. A reputation is basically what people think of you. So if the people you're going to lead consider you 'of good repute', then maybe you're good to go.

*AQuietPlace* · #**143** 03-18-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

Well first, if there's not a position in the bible that's parallel to our present position of pastor, we've got a problem!

Do you think there is?

dizzyde · #**144** 03-18-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy

Bump!

You guys do believe in discernment, don't you? And you do believe that God changes lives, don't you?

Timmy, I realize that you are going for the shock/ridiculous element here, but honestly, this is where my "religiosity" and my human understanding get all tangled up. There are several issues that force me question my belief system, and this is one of them. I am not talking about the forgiveness issue, I am talking about the "change" issue.

Thumper · #**145** 03-18-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy

I'm sure you find it absolutely hilarious Timotheous.

rgcraig · #**146** 03-18-2010, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Thumper

Renda,

We have posted together on multiple forums that go back all the way to Jim Yohe I think. I don't have any interest in discussing personal circumstances on a public forum. It is neither profitable nor appropriate. If you have a good pastor I'm sure that he will give you good counsel on this matter.

I didn't ask for advice or counsel.

jfrog · #**147** 03-18-2010, 01:58 PM

Thumper, you have suggested that the man is still in sin unless he divorces his new wife... don't you know that if he divorces his new wife that he has yet again committed adultery for he did not put her away because of fornication? Shall he sin again so that grace may abound... God forbid?

EDIT: Furthermore it would be a lie to have made the new wedding vow and not keep it... now we are up to lying and adultery just to put away the new wife... Interesting theory you have on how to get right with God Thumper. As for me I can't suggest that he should sin again even once in order to get right with God but I suppose you can believe as you please

Thumper · #**148** 03-18-2010, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

I didn't ask for advice or counsel.

Discussing peoples personal circumstances on a public forum is a losing proposition for all concerned.

Thumper · #**149** 03-18-2010, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

Thumper, you have suggested that the man is still in sin unless he divorces his new wife... don't you know that if he divorces his new wife that he has yet again committed adultery for he did not put her away because of fornication? Shall he sin again so that grace may abound... God forbid?

Actually I have not suggested that he divorce his second wife. I said he needs to end the adulterous relationship, subtle though the difference might be. The second is not a marriage in the eyes of God. You get one husband or wife since in the church you have been. After that it is all just adultery.

Thats my opinion any way.

And you know what they say about opinions.

rgcraig · #**150** 03-18-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Thumper

(Matthew 19:9) And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

The man's in adultery according to the book. End of discussion.

So, using this scripture, the bolded part mentions the man, what about the woman that he marries?