When you're forgiven do you strive to regain their confidence and trust in you? Just asking.
If it's possible. If I were an accountant, and I swindled a lot of people out of tons of money, I would never expect to get a job as an accountant again. It's just reality.
Some things can be restored, some things can't. As with a pedophile. You molest a child, you have ruined your chances of ever being alone with a child again for the rest of your life. You can be an accepted, forgiven, productive member of society.... but there will be an area of life that will be restricted for you. That's just the reality of it.
Actions do have consequences. Some actions have harsher consequences than others.
Sometimes restoration will involve choosing a different path for your life.
From my perspective, yes. I would want people to "trust" me in the area's that I have failed them. I may even want my old position in the church back -but that is what "I" would want. Under this hypothetical, I would be wrong and the church members would be wrong to accept me, at least not without a LOT of baby steps of incrementally proving myself along the way.
What does God want? If his elders feel led of the Holy Ghost to restore him and the congregation welcomes this prodigal home, slaying the fatted calf, putting a ring on his finger, and dressing him in his father's robe... do we have a right to throw stones? Maybe God is doing something unique for this man for reasons that only God knows.
What does God want? If his elders feel led of the Holy Ghost to restore him and the congregation welcomes this prodigal home, slaying the fatted calf, putting a ring on his finger, and dressing him in his father's robe... do we have a right to throw stones? Maybe God is doing something unique for this man for reasons that only God knows.
See, there ya go! A true believer (in life-changing power, and, probably, in the discernment to know whose lives are really changed)!
(I guess!)
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
So can you name an example in the bible of a person who was restored spiritually, but wasn't restored to their position?
Well, we would have to find a position that parallels our current "pastor", since it's a pastoral position we were initially discussing. The "positions" we're talking about in our current time weren't in the Bible, so we couldn't find an example either way.
I think it completely depends upon what you've done, and what your position entailed. What you were "leading" in your leadership position. In our church, musicians, Sunday School teachers and more have been immediately restored after they've repented. But if the pastor commits adultery, he's not going to be back in the pulpit the next week.
When the Bible said that a leader must be blameless, etc, what do you think that meant?
Can a man be guilty of adultery and admit it. Repent. Divorce. Then marry the new woman he had the affair with, and be right with God? Does the fact they got "married" change it from being adultery?
What scriptures prove either way?
(Matthew 19:9) And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
The man's in adultery according to the book. End of discussion.
What does God want? If his elders feel led of the Holy Ghost to restore him and the congregation welcomes this prodigal home, slaying the fatted calf, putting a ring on his finger, and dressing him in his father's robe... do we have a right to throw stones? Maybe God is doing something unique for this man for reasons that only God knows.
If a particular church wants their pastor back in the pulpit, I don't think it's any of our business.
What does God want? If his elders feel led of the Holy Ghost to restore him and the congregation welcomes this prodigal home, slaying the fatted calf, putting a ring on his finger, and dressing him in his father's robe... do we have a right to throw stones? Maybe God is doing something unique for this man for reasons that only God knows.
God doesn't do something unique that violates HIS word
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