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Old 01-21-2010, 02:24 PM
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Re: All White BAsketball League?

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Do you think that the average American white is somehow "disadvantaged" from ever being competitive in the NBA?

Do you think that the average American black faces that same "disadvantage"?

How about the average American asian?
Since the initial question is about disadvantage in the NBA and the follow ups appear to be playing off of that question I have to assume all of these questions are concerning the NBA.

First... I'm not a good person to answer this question as I have zero interest in sports whatsoever... but I would not think that any of these groups face any disadvantage from ever being competitive in the NBA.

The driving force in any sports franchise is money & winning.

If you have talent... nothing else matters. They want you. They don't care if you are black, brown, green, yellow or pastel.

Talent is what they want and there are no disadvantages to a talented sports figure.
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Old 01-21-2010, 02:37 PM
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Re: All White BAsketball League?

Well I must return to work.

I do wonder about the lack of diversity within the NBA.

I think some teams are trying to diversify their teams and it is good they're doing it on their own, and not without a mandate.

That being said, could the NBA do more to diversify their teams?

Would any action to purposely diversify their teams be seen as voluntary AA?


I wonder why the NHL has not been targeted by the NAACP yet?
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It's a good thing that AA is not legislated prejudice-- at least not on paper.
I disagree - it's out and out prejudice legislated with the excuse that it intends to "correct" years of past prejudice.
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I think the way many people interpret and carry it out is nothing short of prejudice and encourages "tokenism", something I absolute hate.

Hiring a "minority" just for the sake of having a "minority" on your staff is wrong and sets that "minority" up for failure.

However, it would be impossible for the white players of the proposed all white basketball league to experience the same failure if all the players in the all white basketball league are white, playing the same game on the same level playing field, without competition from anyone else who may have an upper hand in any way simply because they don't have the same background.

Was my last paragraph clear?
I thought it was right on!
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Old 01-21-2010, 02:48 PM
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Re: All White BAsketball League?

Heres a thought....

There are more whitr player in the NBA than there are black players in the NHL...

Hows that for balance....
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Old 01-21-2010, 03:04 PM
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Well I must return to work.

I do wonder about the lack of diversity within the NBA.

I think some teams are trying to diversify their teams and it is good they're doing it on their own, and not without a mandate.

That being said, could the NBA do more to diversify their teams?

Would any action to purposely diversify their teams be seen as voluntary AA?


I wonder why the NHL has not been targeted by the NAACP yet?
The NHL is a traditionally "Canadian" sport. Until recently Canada had almost no Black population. Immigration has been changing that dramatically lately.

Sports, especially team sports excel within cultures. To develop world class athletes in a given sport you have to have a culture that promotes excellence in that area from a very early age.

Some people have argued that there are "racial" and even "genetic" factors that causes one society to dominate a particular sport, and the NBA has been used as an example to say that "black Africans" are genetically "superior" to other races in the areas needed to excel in basketball.

This line of reasoning fails however when we look at the sport of basketball on a global scale. No African nation has ever medaled in Olympic Basketball in the history of the sport (since the 1920s). If "black Africans" were genetically superior to all other people shouldn't Nigeria, South Africa or some other nation have won at least a Bronze by now?

We are left to conclude that there are social factors that have led to the dominance of African-Americans in the NBA and not racial or genetic factors. Perhaps there has even been a sort of "reverse discrimination" at work in the youth leagues and college game that has caused aspiring Blacks to be encourage to "out hustle" Whites who were susceptible to the overt suggestion that they simply could never be good enough.

Spike Lee played on the "reverse racism" theme in his film "White Men Can't Jump." The Wesley Snipes character (Black) along with the Woody Harrleson character (White) would go through the inner city's basketball courts and play a sort of con game on the perceived racism of the Blacks in the area. Seeing that the Snipes/Harrelson twosome contained a "White Guy" the Blacks were encouraged to bet even more money on the outcome of the games because hey, White Men Can't Jump!

Then Harrelson is shown in dramatic footage slam dunking and stealing rebounds away as he and Snipes win every two-on-two game they play. Lee's film did a good job of pointing out how racism and prejudice exists in every community and how it causes those who play to those antagonisms to eventually lose out on a lot of life's "bets."
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That will be as exciting as watching woman's basket ball...nothing personal ladies but if I wanted to watch an hour of jump shots Id go to a jr high school game
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That will be as exciting as watching woman's basket ball...nothing personal ladies but if I wanted to watch an hour of jump shots Id go to a jr high school game
I find the driving up the lane and "Who's your daddy?" slam dunk contests to be kind of boring. I actually enjoyed a women's game I saw recently. It was the whole "below the rim" style of a passing attack and coordination and teamwork that I though was cool.

There's a time to make a statement with a good slam dunk, but I like the tactical aspect of sports as well.
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It would make an interesting thought experiment, to illustrate the value of diversity! Think of it: limiting the choice of players like that would result in a sub-optimal league. Imagine a super-championship game between the NBA champs and the All-White champs. It would be painful to watch!
Yeah, one group suffers from "white man's disease"
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