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Jeffrey · #71 01-12-2010, 07:36 PM

No they are 7-steppers:

http://www.therockchurch.org:/defaul...-of-salvation/

RandyWayne · #72 01-12-2010, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

No they are 7-steppers:

http://www.therockchurch.org:/defaul...-of-salvation/

Oh man, I thought you were joking and was about to type "Only 7? Thought it was more like 27....", then clicked on the link and saw the actual sermon title. I may have to give it a listen.

missourimary · #73 01-12-2010, 07:41 PM

I don't know but whoever they are I like their choir robes!!!

RandyWayne · #74 01-12-2010, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by missourimary

I don't know but whoever they are I like their choir robes!!!

The current generation of young padawans!

A couple of minutes into it and he's already comparing the people response to him to that of the husbands at a ball game..... And men are already running the isle trying to pick up women!! (which is why they do it -run the isle).

missourimary · #75 01-12-2010, 08:20 PM

In case anyone is curious... I didn't copy all the verses used, but here is a very brief synopsis:
One of the first statements: "Somebody [will] say I thought there were only three steps to salvation, not seven."

On in a little: "Lets imagine that a man is in an ocean and is drowning. He cries out for help... throws the life preserver into the ocean, the man grabs the life preserver... they pulled him on board." What saved the man? He cried for help... but that alone didn't save him... It took all of it to get the man saved...

Steps:
1) Grace-unmerited favor of God, state of reconciliation with God, the provision that makes up where I'm short. Grace is the means that brings salvation. Eph 2:5, 8 Works through the redemption in Christ Jesus. Titus 2:11
2) Faith-Eph 2:8 Grace uses the tool of faith. 1 Pet 1:9, Heb 11:6, Mk 16:16, James 2:19-20
3) Confession-confess sin, admitting we sinned. 1 Jn 1:19, Jas 5:16
4) Forsake sin-Repent. II Cor 7:10, Acts 2:38
5) Baptism-Mt 3:15, Mk 16:16
6) Holy Ghost-Acts 10:44
7) Endure-Heb 12:1

RandyWayne · #76 01-12-2010, 08:26 PM

I'm still watching it. There are quite a few good points yet just enough false premises to get things wrong.

Also, those guys sitting on the platform in their chairs like his knights of the round table are driving me nuts!

missourimary · #77 01-12-2010, 08:27 PM

I skipped some parts. I speed listened.

And I didn't watch most, just listened, so no one was distracting me no matter where they sat in the video...

Evang.Benincasa · #78 01-12-2010, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I'm still watching it. There are quite a few good points yet just enough false premises to get things wrong.

Also, those guys sitting on the platform in their chairs like his knights of the round table are driving me nuts!

Is that "driving nuts" as in being driven to nuts, or are you actually driving a nut? Would that be a half shell of a nut, or could even its half shell be considered a "nut." If we don't even consider "nuts." Then is this more about men being seated on a platform looking like knights? In what way do they look like knights? In a Monty Python holy grail way, or an Excalibur way?

RandyWayne · #79 01-12-2010, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Is that "driving nuts" as in being driven to nuts, or are you actually driving a nut? Would that be a half shell of a nut, or could even its half shell be considered a "nut." If we don't even consider "nuts." Then is this more about men being seated on a platform looking like knights? In what way do they look like knights? In a Monty Python holy grail way, or an Excalibur way?

More like being driven to drink!

The royalty that so many in the org believe they possess is mind boggling. Part of the aura they try to create is to have a bunch of men, who look not unlike a group of life sized bobble heads, nodding in agreement with everything he says sitting behind him on the platform.

Also the reason they go so crazy trying to get the audience to respond to what they say after every applause point.

(And it bothers me in politics as well.)

jfrog · #80 01-12-2010, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

More like being driven to drink!

The royalty that so many in the org believe they possess is mind boggling. Part of the aura they try to create is to have a bunch of men, who look not unlike a group of life sized bobble heads, nodding in agreement with everything he says sitting behind him on the platform.

Also the reason they go so crazy trying to get the audience to respond to what they say after every applause point.

(And it bothers me in politics as well.)

rofl!!! i never thought about it that way. But that sure is funny.