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Old 01-04-2010, 08:13 PM
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?

1 Corinthians 14:4 He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church.

When we read the context of this passage we can see that Paul was not teaching the Corinthians to use their gifts to edify themselves, but that they should instead, seek to use their gifts for the edification of the entire body.
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Old 01-04-2010, 08:14 PM
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I mean really, what is our intent here? Is it really to uphold what Paul said or is it to make sure that women stay as closely under our thumbs as possible?

The men that I know that argue this point have a real bad attitude towards women.

I hope that there is no one like that in here.

Surely there is a balance.
no wonder so many women leave their husbands....
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Old 01-04-2010, 08:19 PM
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?

What is the purpose of prophecy?

A. To edify ("build up").

I Corinthians 14:3, 4
"But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification ... he that prophesieth edifieth the church."

B. To exhort (Lit., "to call near; encourage").

Acts 16:32
"And they spake unto him the word of the Lord ..."
I Corinthians 14:3
"But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to ... exhortation ..."C. To comfort.

I Corinthians 14:3
"But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to ... comfort."
I Corinthians 14:31
"For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted."
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Old 01-04-2010, 08:21 PM
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?

The gift of prophecy is to be desired.

Numbers 11:29
"And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake? Would God that all the Lord's people were prophets, and that the Lord would put his spirit upon them."
I Corinthians 14:1
"... desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy."
I Corinthians 14:5
"I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth ..."
I Corinthians 14:39
"Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy ..."
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Old 01-04-2010, 08:23 PM
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And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: Acts 2 :18
This is in the church age....
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The word "prophet" derives from the Greek word "to announce."
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I know a lot of men that need to get unsaved because they were saved under a woman...so They were not saved at all accoring to some...
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As usual, all theology & no textual interaction w/ I Tim. 2:11-15, other than to try & explain away the natural ramifications of the passage.
2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

It is funny you making so much out of these two passages putting words and definitions into todays society. First to preach was to herald the gospel to those that did not or had not heard it. Nowhere can you find this being from a pulpit in a building setting in front of a congregation of people as we do things today. Your rants and raves about women pastors and not having authority over men is a moot point when the church government is in proper order as exampled in the word of God.

When we don't consider the history and customs of the day the bible was written and try to bring it down to our day without realizing that customs change as do the meaning of words.

Take the word church when we think of church we see a building with pews and a platform etc. When the word church is used in scripture it had nothing to do with a building. If you want to keep your women supressed join a cult where they only have women for the purpose of having children and keeping house, but God never intended for the women to be a lower part of mankind. Futher more if you want to obey these passages in this light then I hope you are obeying these passages too.

Deu 5:13 Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work:
Deu 5:14 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work

Deu 23:2 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

Deu 25:5 If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger: her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husband's brother unto her.

Lev 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

Lev 20:25 Ye shall therefore put difference between clean beasts and unclean, and between unclean fowls and clean: and ye shall not make your souls abominable by beast, or by fowl, or by any manner of living thing that creepeth on the ground, which I have separated from you as unclean.
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?

A woman performed my wedding and I was married for 53 years. (she was also my Passtor and my aunt)Does that mean I lived in adultery all those years?
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Wow...what a qestion...awaiting to see the answer...
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