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12-30-2009, 03:37 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
The ratio of women missionaries is three women to one man. For volunteers, the ratio is twenty women for one man! In some cultures only women can bring the gospel to pagan people who sit in darkness, for men are not allowed to approach them.
As defenders of the faith, women stand side by side with men in their capacity to face death and endure agonies of persecutions. I wonder after looking at facts, how anyone can still downgrade the anointing and ministry of chosen women of God.
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12-30-2009, 03:41 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
Salmos 68:11 Spanish: La Biblia de las Américas (©1997)
El Señor da la palabra; las mujeres que anuncian las buenas nuevas son gran multitud:
Salmos 68:11 Spanish: La Nueva Biblia de los Hispanos (©2005)
El Señor da la palabra; Las mujeres que anuncian las buenas nuevas son gran multitud:
Salmos 68:11 Spanish: Reina Valera (1909)
El Señor daba palabra: De las evangelizantes había grande ejército.
Salmos 68:11 Spanish: Sagradas Escrituras (1569)
El Señor dará palabra; de los evangelizadores habrá grande ejército.
Salmos 68:11 Spanish: Modern
El Señor da la palabra, y una gran hueste de mujeres anuncia la buena nueva:
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12-30-2009, 03:47 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
and in Portuguese it says:
Salmos 68:11 O Senhor deu a palavra, grande é a falange das mensageiras das boas-novas .
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12-30-2009, 03:51 PM
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
O hebraico diz literalmente: O Senhor deu uma palavra. As anunciadoras de boa nova são um exército grande.
Hebrew literally says, The Lord gave the word and the female announcers are a big army...
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12-30-2009, 03:58 PM
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
Salmos 68:12 - O Senhor dá a palavra; As mulheres que proclamam as boas novas (hamevasseroth) são uma grande multidão. (The Lord giveth the word; The women that proclaim the tidings are a great host.
(The Holy Scriptures. The Jewish Publication Society, p. 916.)
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12-30-2009, 04:12 PM
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
another rendering...
The Lord giveth the word!
A great company of women announce the glad tidings!
Kings with their armies flee -- they flee!
And those, who dwell within the house, divide the spoil!
Although they lie among the hearth stones,
They are become like a dove's wings overlaid with silver,
And like her pinions overlaid with yellow gold.
When the Almighty scattereth kings,
They glisten therein, as snow upon Salmon
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12-30-2009, 04:17 PM
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
another rendering says:
v11 The *Lord gave a message
and a large number of women passed on the good news.
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12-30-2009, 04:27 PM
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
Here is a voice from the “Open Brethren,” G. H. Lang “I feel quite unable to require, in effect, that men must perish eternally rather than that a woman should tell them the good tidings. Let any good brother who feels strongly in the other direction that a woman must be utterly silent in the public presence of men consider whether, if he were unconverted, he would prefer to go to hell rather than be saved through a woman preaching?”
Sad that so called apostolic people would rather let a soul perish than a women go to them...IF people REALLY believed in a burning hell...they would not care who served as a roadblock...
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12-30-2009, 04:54 PM
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
II John 1-3
I take this letter just as it is written to the elect lady and her sister. Probably her name was withheld because of the danger of times in which she lived. Paul uses "elect" in the same way as when he speaks of Rufus "chosen in the Lord ( Romans 16:13, 1 Peter 1:1-2).
She was "elect" in the fact she was chosen of God according to His eternal purpose. It was John that wrote to the elect lady. She was a church overseer. I know of no other reason that he would be writing a woman a letter that would be included with the other letters he wrote to churches, overseers and gospel workers.
The church owes a great deal to the effective public ministry of consecrated women.
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12-30-2009, 04:59 PM
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
Women counseled and taught men both in the New and Old Testament ( Judges 4:5,2 Kings 22; Acts 18). Whatever curse was put upon mankind was destroyed through redemption, and no curse was put upon a woman concerning preaching.
Someone justifying his belief that men only could preach the gospel, said that preachers under the law of circumcision were all men. But remember baptism is for both men and women. What circumcision once represented under the Law, baptism now represents for us (both male and female) today ( Revelation 1:6 Luke 20:35).
The difference in the priesthood and the ministry is that a person had to be born into the priesthood. Today, we are not born into the ministry but called into the ministry. The only priest in the Old Testament that was "called" was Aaron (Hebrew 5:4). The Levitical priesthood was abolished at Calvary.
Others have said He chose men only for disciples,. Well, they were Jews! Would that same reasoning mean that only Jewish men could be preachers? Of course not! O consistency thou art a jewel! He chose Jacob (younger), not Esau. He chose Moses instead of Aaron. He chose David instead of his brothers, and the list goes on. God does not work by man’s ideas, but He chooses whom He will. God had no trouble finding and using a donkey (female) to rebuke Balaam.
God knows how to humble the proud, and lift up the abased. He used a little boy’s lunch and that story is found in all four gospels. He knows how to use the widow’s two mites. And I’m sure He knows how to use redeemed women to proclaim His Word.
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