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07-14-2009, 03:31 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
Wish I had been there!
Sis ALvear, I would be proud to call you "Pastor" if we lived in your neck of the woods.
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and thank you for your kindness...I really am not called to pastor but have filled in a few times...
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07-14-2009, 04:23 PM
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GET IT RIGHT!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: WI
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Re: For "LadyRev..."
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Originally Posted by rdp
Sorry friend, the early church derived their epistemological make-up from the OT Scriptures....which N-E-V-E-R shows a woman expounding from the Scriptures to a congregation. But you have the floor, pls. provide me just one, single passage in the Bible where a woman taught/preached from the Scriptures. Just ONE!
Spare me the Deborah issue pls., since she was not an expositor from the Scriptures!! And, you're very mistaken, the early church DID address the issue of women preachers...when Paul strictly forbid the practice [I Tim. 2:11-14, I Cor. 14:34]. Apparently you deny the literal text.
May take me a few days to respond, very busy, but have heard all of these arguments for years now.
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*SIGH* I've heard all the arguments as well. Many, many times. The pastor that helped me obtain my license taught me well. Perhaps you would rather tangle with him on this issue rather than tangling with a lowly, inferior, woman such as I. PM me and I will give you his name and phone number.
Your kind specialize in twisting Paul's words to suit yourself. You make Paul sound like a hypocritical fool - which he is not.
As for a "woman" that expounded the scriptures, how do you interpret "giving a word from the Lord?" I suppose that doesn't count...LOL!
2 Kings 22:11-20
11 And it came to pass, when the king had heard the words of the book of the law, that he rent his clothes. 12 And the king commanded Hilkiah the priest, and Ahikam the son of Shaphan, and Achbor the son of Michaiah, and Shaphan the scribe, and Asahiah a servant of the king's, saying, 13 Go ye, enquire of the LORD for me, and for the people, and for all Judah, concerning the words of this book that is found: for great is the wrath of the LORD that is kindled against us, because our fathers have not hearkened unto the words of this book, to do according unto all that which is written concerning us. 14 So Hilkiah the priest, and Ahikam, and Achbor, and Shaphan, and Asahiah, went unto Huldah the prophetess, the wife of Shallum the son of Tikvah, the son of Harhas, keeper of the wardrobe; (now she dwelt in Jerusalem in the college and they communed with her. 15 And she said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Tell the man that sent you to me, 16 Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon this place, and upon the inhabitants thereof, even all the words of the book which the king of Judah hath read: 17 Because they have forsaken me, and have burned incense unto other gods, that they might provoke me to anger with all the works of their hands; therefore my wrath shall be kindled against this place, and shall not be quenched. 18 But to the king of Judah which sent you to enquire of the LORD, thus shall ye say to him, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, As touching the words which thou hast heard; 19 Because thine heart was tender, and thou hast humbled thyself before the LORD, when thou heardest what I spake against this place, and against the inhabitants thereof, that they should become a desolation and a curse, and hast rent thy clothes, and wept before me; I also have heard thee, saith the LORD. 20 Behold therefore, I will gather thee unto thy fathers, and thou shalt be gathered into thy grave in peace; and thine eyes shall not see all the evil which I will bring upon this place. And they brought the king word again.
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07-14-2009, 05:20 PM
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Are You Ready To Fly?
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Join Date: Jun 2009
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
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Do you think that ...
(A) Jesus was more concerned that a sinner had been redeemed and washed clean of sin
(B) Jesus never thought of the one getting Baptised, because he was worried about a (WOMAN) doing the Baptising
Enter the correct answer below
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 John 14:16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counsellor to be with you for ever 17 The Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.
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07-14-2009, 06:09 PM
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Give it some gas!
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Yellowstone
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
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Originally Posted by LadyRev
Based on years of personal experience, most church troubles start with men that can't be Godly men. They commit adultery, often with women or teenage girls within the church. They fornicate with young boys, they turn homosexual, they gamble, they are addicted to porn, they don't love their wives as the bible says, they spend most of their time with worldly pleasures such as golfing, fishing, hunting, racquetball, etc. instead of spending adequate time with their wives and children, they let their wives be involved at church while they do nothing but warm a pew, shall I continue?
Oh yeah, and they blame the women for all the church and/or family troubles. The blame game. Its as old as Adam.
Truth is truth.
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Oh please!!!!
Spare me the DRAMA!!!!!
LEAVE THE FISHING AND HUNTING OUT OF IT!!!!!!! Just like a woman! Always attacking good Godly activities!
These are Biblical things to do!
Hunting-
Act 10:9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:
Act 10:10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
Act 10:11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
Act 10:12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
Act 10:13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
Fishing-
Mat 4:19 And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishermen.
THIS IS ONE REASON THAT WOMEN CAN NOT BE PASTORS, THEY HATE THESE GOOD GODLY MANLY ACTIVITIES!!!
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07-14-2009, 06:10 PM
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Give it some gas!
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
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Originally Posted by easter
Do you think that ...
(A) Jesus was more concerned that a sinner had been redeemed and washed clean of sin
(B) Jesus never thought of the one getting Baptised, because he was worried about a (WOMAN) doing the Baptising
Enter the correct answer below
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I'LL TELL YOU WHAT!
This person is only 2/3 saved, the other third is because of a woman baptizing!
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07-14-2009, 06:14 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
if they are not saved because of a woman baptizing then they did not get the Holy Ghost under a woman preaching...
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07-14-2009, 06:18 PM
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For Scott Hutchinson....
Aww, don't worry about the price! It's still in manuscript form anyway. Not sure how to get it to you though. Can reach me at 225-921-1018, or email me at onegod67@hotmail.com [sorry for small case 'g'] w/ your address. I can send you a copy. Blessings.
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07-14-2009, 06:20 PM
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Are You Ready To Fly?
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
if they are not saved because of a woman baptizing then they did not get the Holy Ghost under a woman preaching...
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Get him sister Alvear!Don't let that male chauvinist Piglet talk to you that way!
Whoopi Harted here's  in your eye
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 John 14:16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counsellor to be with you for ever 17 The Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.
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07-14-2009, 06:20 PM
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Give it some gas!
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Yellowstone
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
if they are not saved because of a woman baptizing then they did not get the Holy Ghost under a woman preaching...
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I don't know, just don't know!!!
That other 1/3 will have to be rebaptized for salvations sake!!
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07-14-2009, 06:24 PM
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Rejoice over a soul saved, but...
Would just congenially point out that God does not 'call' contary to His written Word. Hope that this is received in the grace that it's intended. Blessings....
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