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Old 07-02-2009, 01:30 PM
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More like not just as Obama thing but both parties selling us up the river.....

It's Progressivism.....Only Big Government and their "experts" know what's best for us unwashed ignorant masses and the Constitution is just an old piece of History that's time has passed..
...and in my opinion, the only way they have a shot at accomplishing this is through blind partisan loyalty...where the loyalty only works one way. The politicians are not required to be loyal to the people, their demands, and best interests. But I don't want to go down this whole road again...
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Old 07-02-2009, 01:35 PM
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...and in my opinion, the only way they have a shot at accomplishing this is through blind partisan loyalty...where the loyalty only works one way. The politicians are not required to be loyal to the people, their demands, and best interests. But I don't want to go down this whole road again...
Blind loyalty to anything can cause great harm........

For the most part and I'm sure there might be exceptions, politicians are more concerned about being reelected than what's best for the Country.

I truly can't understand loyalty to a party that seems to want to keep the poor beholden to them for their sustenance and who while stressing public education can not seem to improve it and at times appear to be doing the opposite.
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Old 07-02-2009, 01:38 PM
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That's what I'd read earlier in the week also. I understand why they wanted to remove him FIRST, but that was not the LEGAL way to remove a sitting executive. The legal way, as I understood it, was to vote for removal first, the Supreme Court tries him and convicts and then he is legally removed from office.

I'll be fine if he is never allowed back into Honduras because I know he has bad intentions, but I don't expect the President to support something that wasn't legal.
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On June 26, President Zelaya issued a decree ordering all government employees to take part in the "Public Opinion Poll to convene a National Constitutional Assembly." In doing so, Zelaya triggered a constitutional provision that automatically removed him from office.
According to the Honduran Constitution ... the actions of June 26 violated this Article:

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Article 239: "No citizen who has already served as head of the Executive Branch can be President or Vice-President. Whoever violates this law or proposes its reform [emphasis added], as well as those that support such violation directly or indirectly, will immediately cease in their functions and will be unable to hold any public office for a period of 10 years."
AFTER Zelaya's violation of Article 239 ...

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The Supreme Court and the attorney general ordered Zelaya's arrest for disobeying several court orders compelling him to obey the Constitution.
Again ... Zelaya broke the law and violated the Constitution of Honduras.

This notion that there was a MILITARY coup by BHO and the other leftists is junk.
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Article 239: "No citizen who has already served as head of the Executive Branch can be President or Vice-President. Whoever violates this law or proposes its reform [emphasis added], as well as those that support such violation directly or indirectly, will immediately cease in their functions and will be unable to hold any public office for a period of 10 years."
This doesn't state what "Immediately" means ... I would assume immediately means without delay....

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Old 07-02-2009, 02:26 PM
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Blind loyalty to anything can cause great harm........

For the most part and I'm sure there might be exceptions, politicians are more concerned about being reelected than what's best for the Country.

I truly can't understand loyalty to a party that seems to want to keep the poor beholden to them for their sustenance and who while stressing public education can not seem to improve it and at times appear to be doing the opposite.
Every group that enjoys blind partisan support and loyalty uses a few hot-button issues to justify and continue that support...whether the overall result is benifical or not.
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Old 07-02-2009, 02:41 PM
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The Republicans put pressure on BHO to get tougher with Iran ... and he finally did.

Where's the Republican pressure to allow Honduras conduct its own affairs without meddling from BHO? They should be out there pointing out the hypocrisy of BHO's position with Iran and Honduras.

BHO's foreign policy is soooo muddled and bizarre right now.

Don't voice support for protesters demanding democracy in Iran...
Do demand that a leftist who violated the constitution of his nation be returned to power or the country face consequences...

One can only think, from these two events, that BHO supports leftists more than democracy.

C'mon Republicans ... this is gift-wrapped for you. Get on television and radio questioning why BHO is meddling with Honduras' constitutional law and actions. Get the truth out about the events there ... how it's NOT a MILITARY coup, but constitutional law being acted on.
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In the interest of full disclosure, I better point out here that Steny Hoyer has proposed this same legislation every Congressional session since the mid 80's.
I am a big believer in full disclosure. I did not realize that this has been coming up for years. Thank you for adding to the discussion.

It brings me a wee bit of comfort, but not alot seeing how Congress seems too eager to do OHB's bidding.
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Old 07-02-2009, 02:57 PM
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Sent an email off to a couple of my Congressman asking about the Honduran issue ... we'll see if I get a reply. The last time a reply came was about 3 months after I sent the email. One time their office called me ... wasn't the Senator, just an aide, but I thought it was cool they took time to actually call.
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**BUMP**

BHO's admin still meddling ... still demanding Honduras violate its constitution and restate Zelaya.

Good article HERE
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