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Old 06-26-2009, 12:47 PM
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A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHuling

Docket Entry: Plea Hearing Held

Text: Defendant appears in person and with attorney Charles Rhoades. The State appears by Jeremy Crowley, APA. Defendant withdraws the plea of not guilty previously entered and files a Petition to Enter Plea of Guilty marked as Defendant's Exhibit A and a Memorandum of Plea Bargain marked as Defendant's Exhibit B. Defendant sworn. Hearing held. The Court finds that the Defendant's plea of guilty is made voluntarily and intelligently and with full understanding of the charges and the consequences of the plea and with the understanding of rights attending a jury trial and the effect of a plea of guilty on those rights. The Court does find there is a factual basis for the plea. The Court, therefore, accepts the plea of guilty to the charge of a Class B Felony, Child Molestation - 1st Degree, and finds the Defendant guilty thereof. Defendant requests a Sentencing Assessment Report. Court orders Sentencing Assessment Report to be conducted by the Board of Probation and Parole. Report shall be returnable on Friday, August 21, 2009. Defendant shall return for sentencing on Friday, September 4, 2009 at 1:00 P.M. Court defers the acceptance or rejection of the plea agreement. So Ordered: David B. Mouton, Circuit Judge

Associated Docket Entries: 05/13/2009 - Criminal Motion Hearing Sched

Associated Events: 06/26/2009 , 09:00:00 - Criminal Motion Hearing

from www.courts.mo.gov/casenet

29th Judicial Circuit
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Old 06-26-2009, 12:58 PM
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shame shame shame everyone knows your name....LOL
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Old 06-26-2009, 01:56 PM
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Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu

Sad.
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Old 06-26-2009, 02:19 PM
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Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu

I agree Cindy...very sad...and I wish people would not post things like this on forums...we have so many outsiders reading here...Including my precious sisters that are not UPC.
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I agree Cindy...very sad...and I wish people would not post things like this on forums...we have so many outsiders reading here...Including my precious sisters that are not UPC.
Dear Sis. ALvear,

You know I love and respect you immensely, but this is a reason why many sex offenders are not prosecuted. I once asked a prominent UPCI minister why a pedophile was not prosecuted as the offense was done in their church. He told me:
1. They didn't want to bring a reproach upon the church [I believe it to be a reproach when it isn't prosecuted],
2. The young girl involved had reached 18 and was marrying and they did not want her to be dragged into it [she was 14-16 when the molestation occurred].
3. The girl was a PK and they didn't want it to affect the ministry [how dare that parent to protect their ministry from embarrassment at the expense of their daughter].

This is why we are no better than the Catholics who hide behind priestly garments all the while molesting our children. Many times we are not in a place of control when someone we know or a family member is molested, but if we know it has happened and do nothing then we are as guilty as the person who did the molesting.

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Old 06-26-2009, 03:46 PM
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Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu

Rhoni, I love and respect you too and I a not in any way for hiding things like this I just don´t feel this is the place to do it..
I may be wong I sure am not always rght but it seems so many people read here that we could use this place to build up and not tear down. In no way am I saying this man whoever he is should be protected...God forbid...I just think somewhere else would be proper...
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Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu

If the internet would just disappear everything would go back to the way it was...LOL
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Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu

I am not so sure this medium is any different than others. Those "looking in" need to know we in no way engage in covering this type of thing, whether literally stonewalling an investigation or simply by refusing discussion.

It is news, and now not just hearsay.
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Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu

My thread on this was locked

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ead.php?t=7292
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Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu

Sis. Alvear, this is already public knowledge. The Joplin, MO newspaper published articles when he was first charged. I've been following the docket entries on Missouri Case Net, as have others. Further, he will be added to the sex offender's list in MO which is accessible to the public, details the charges, and usually includes a picture of the perpetrator.

There are many situations the church can deal with internally, without involving the general public, and "saving the face" of the church, so to speak. However, molestation of a child isn't one of those occasions IMO, anymore than murder, rape, or any other crime that injures a second party.

Unlike with simple immoral behavior, crimes such as molestation, murder, rape, assault, etc., need to be made known to the public so they can protect themselves--and their children.

If a pastor commits adultery, I agree, he can be quietly removed from his post as pastor, and he can resolve the matter with his family without informing the general public of his failure, thus bringing shame to the church as a whole. Other situations warrant the same discreet approach. (Although, IMO, it is NOT wrong to apprise the local congregation of the situation, and in fact they probably should know what is going on.)

Child molestation isn't one of those situations, IMO.
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