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Re: Is baptism essential unto salvation?
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I am just asking you to make your point more clear... nothing you have said really makes any sense regarding the topic... unless you make it clear I am quite lost.
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I was taught to be respectful to my elders even if and when I didn't agree with them.
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Re: Is baptism essential unto salvation?
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I was taught to be respectful to my elders even if and when I didn't agree with them.
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I don't know what he is trying to say, I don't feel like I am being rude... I don't know if I agree or not, his point wasn't about baptism so i don't know. I don't know why you would just randomly say that either, all I am saying is he didn't really make any point.
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06-15-2009, 09:32 PM
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Re: Is baptism essential unto salvation?
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clgustaveson, Practically speaking why is this important to you? I don't know many Christians personally that reject baptism, do you?
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But that argument is counter what I believe...
I believe in God because I have a concrete experience with him, I test all things faith (just as the Bible says) and I hardly ever believe something by consensus...
Basically you are telling me that because most God fearing Christians do not reject Baptism that I shouldn't even question the established belief?
I think you should read my post again because I think I thoroughly explain why this is an important matter to me...
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Re: Is baptism essential unto salvation?
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I don't know what he is trying to say, I don't feel like I am being rude... I don't know if I agree or not, his point wasn't about baptism so i don't know. I don't know why you would just randomly say that either, all I am saying is he didn't really make any point.
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Her point.
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06-15-2009, 09:36 PM
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Re: Is baptism essential unto salvation?
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Her point.
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Excuse me?
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Re: Is baptism essential unto salvation?
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Excuse me?
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NVM, my eyes just caught my assumption... FALLA sorry duly noted your sn is not FELLA....
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Re: Is baptism essential unto salvation?
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NVM, my eyes just caught my assumption... FALLA sorry duly noted your sn is not FELLA....
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Okay, simmer down then. We'd hate to have to beat you! 
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Re: Is baptism essential unto salvation?
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OK, I just don't see what the point being made was... I am asking for people to steer me in the direction of answers and posts that are less than clear make it a waste of time.
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Re: Is baptism essential unto salvation?
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But that argument is counter what I believe...
I believe in God because I have a concrete experience with him, I test all things faith (just as the Bible says) and I hardly ever believe something by consensus...
Basically you are telling me that because most God fearing Christians do not reject Baptism that I shouldn't even question the established belief?
I think you should read my post again because I think I thoroughly explain why this is an important matter to me...
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I did read the entire post.
But when you state,
"If you think you are justified in feeling that all who are not baptized are not saved then that is between you and God,..."
it sounds like you know people that, a) are Christian but not baptized, and b) know others that believe the same are lost. Just wondering if you have experienced this or if this is all hypothetical.
In general, I believe Christians pretty much all believe in baptism, while differing on modes and methods.
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06-15-2009, 10:23 PM
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Re: Is baptism essential unto salvation?
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I did read the entire post.
But when you state,
"If you think you are justified in feeling that all who are not baptized are not saved then that is between you and God,..."
it sounds like you know people that, a) are Christian but not baptized, and b) know others that believe the same are lost. Just wondering if you have experienced this or if this is all hypothetical.
In general, I believe Christians pretty much all believe in baptism, while differing on modes and methods.
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Yes, baptism is an undeniable part of the Bible... more Christians believe it is not essential to salvation, most apostolic people do though... why?
Believing in Baptism is different than believing it is essential to salvation... Should you judge a mans intentions? By stating do you know any Christians that refuse to be baptized, you are (however unintentional it may be) suggesting they are not Christians because they choose not to be baptized... there are many reasons one would choose not to, and I see only three reasons to... Jesus did, to be saved, and because everyone else is.... you pick which you believe but why would you assume that all Christians would want to?
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