The Church has always persecuted Fresh Moves of God

[tv1a]

Religion happens is when the Church can't let go of tradition. Religion is what separates the denomination.

Originally Posted by rrford

As long as you recognize tha ambiguity then we are okay.

I will agree that "religion" has indeed persecuted fresh moves of God. That probably will not end until eternity begins.

But I think we all know that on a Forum like this, discussing this type of topic, terms are incredibly important. How we define the terms you used is paramount to agreement. If we cannot agree on the terms then we most definitely will not find cohesiveness on cause and effects.

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

The Catholic church is and has always been out of whack. They are not the church anyway. They are the harlot.

can you prove that?

[Revelationist]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Reverend Moon,

The Catholic church is and has always been out of whack. They are not the church anyway. They are the harlot.
STS

Biblically, in order to be the harlot, they had to have been the true church at one time. Never will you find in the Bible a group of Pagons being called a Harlet. Only the true church of God was ever called a harlot. So, if the Catholic Church has never been the true church, she can not be the Harlot.

Jerry Moon

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by keith4him

My point in this thread, as I looked over the course of church history, most if not all of what were genuine renewal movements were initially fought from within the institutional church. From the Judaizers down to the Wesley Methodists the first opposition was from within.

This is true.

We were the laughing stock at one time. We were the ones who were labeled "holy rollers", of the devil, crazy, off our rockers.

We were the ones put out of homes and churches.

We were the ones whose windows were broken, who were pelted with rocks, whose tent pegs were tore down.

We were the ones labeled heretics, made off casts and rejected.

And we didn't start with all of the "truths, doctrines and holiness standards" in place either. They came along after.

So then why do we finger point and make derisive put down remarks about other moves of God that have taken place in just about every decade since the first one of the 20th century.

I'm happy to be what I am. I'm glad I was born into apostolic Pentecostalism. I'm grateful and proud that I was raised in good churches and in the UPC tradition but are we the result of the only move of God in NA during the past 107 years? I sure don't think so.

[Felicity]

We will be moving forward into an unprecedented manifestation of God, I pray we don't miss this time of visitation.

God will visit those who are hungry and open.

I think most AOs are satisfied and closed. After all they have the "truth" and have known/know the operation of the Holy Ghost.

If there is an unprecedented move and manifestation of God it likely won't visit those who are already satisfied and have the "truth". This move of God would have to come from within their own ranks in order for it to be accepted.

I'm not saying this in any kind of mean-spirited way. I just think it's very likely the truth.