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01-16-2009, 02:06 PM
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Re: Name or Person?
If name can imple person, then I wonder how that might fit theologically in light of the Trinity and Oneness
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01-16-2009, 05:16 PM
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Re: Name or Person?
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Wouldn't THAT then make it an idiom? BTW did you read the specific verses I posted where in fact it WAS used as a sort of idiom for "person"?
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I did.
I just did some digging, apparently this site considers it to be an idiom, at least sometimes. http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/24_idioms.html
I suppose it is, in a way. But it's just what the word means.
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What is your point though? Is this in support of what I posted or against? If against how do you explain those two verses?
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For.
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In the way it is worded in some of the verses, like what I quoted, it seems to be more than just a memorial. It was used synonymously with His being there present. However he still makes the same point that "there to fix his abode"....
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Exactly. If your name is in a place, you are.
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Does not he write his name on us too? Or are we called by His name and yet we know our bodies or His temple...interesting!
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I have 9 kids in my apartment tonight. lol I'll try to remember I have something I want to think about later. 
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01-16-2009, 06:15 PM
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Re: Name or Person?
I am finding this quite interesting...
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01-16-2009, 07:26 PM
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Genesis 11:10
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Re: Name or Person?
[QUOTE=Daniel Alicea;683736] The Jewish Virtual Library states:
The Significance of Names
In Jewish thought, a name is not merely an arbitrary designation, a random combination of sounds. The name conveys the nature and essence of the thing named. It represents the history and reputation of the being named.
example-"Nabal" in 1 Samuel 25
ARPH 
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01-16-2009, 08:00 PM
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Re: Name or Person?
nabal? "I will do it when I am ready n abal"?
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01-19-2009, 12:40 AM
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Re: Name or Person?
Bump For Daniel
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
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01-19-2009, 12:42 AM
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Re: Name or Person?
BTW Someone was posting on Carm that we were all Arians...never mind what kind of person would make such an asinine assertion. Our History is that we started with Jesus name baptism. That Jesus is the name of Father, Son and Spirit. From there we turned towards modalism.
Hardly arianism. I wonder if some of this had to do with the notion of Name and Person.
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
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01-19-2009, 10:15 PM
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Re: Name or Person?
BUMP!!!!!
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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01-20-2009, 12:55 AM
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Re: Name or Person?
More
Act 4:12 And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."
Notice the connection between name and person?
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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01-20-2009, 04:36 PM
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Re: Name or Person?
Daniel where is that quote????
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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