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Old 01-10-2009, 08:59 PM
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Re: What if Starbucks Marketed Like a Church?

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Yes, actually I have!

Terrifying actually. I wonder how differently my life would have gone if I hadn't gotten frustrated and quit looking for a church 9 years ago?
That is sad!

When I was saved at 23, I told a man at the church that I remembered him from High School. I told him that I always knew he was a Christian. All those years I definitely was not! When we talked a few days after I was Born Again I asked him why he never invited me to church. I told him I wondered how my life might have been different if he ever had. It broke his heart. I did not mean to; I was just talking; but it really got to him.
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Old 01-11-2009, 12:15 AM
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Re: What if Starbucks Marketed Like a Church?

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Great video. Who is the speaker?
Not sure. But many statements in the video are lifted from a book I am reading now written by Frank Viola about the pagan roots of the church, i.e, buildings, order of worhip, etc., Here is a link to the site http://paganchristianity.org/ He has two books about the subject. I am reading pagan christianity.
It is completly documented and sourced and is very challenging. It explains why many of us are disgusted with "church" and "denominations." DON'T READ IT IF YOU CANT HANDLE BEING CHALLENGED.
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Old 01-11-2009, 11:55 AM
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Re: What if Starbucks Marketed Like a Church?

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Not sure. But many statements in the video are lifted from a book I am reading now written by Frank Viola about the pagan roots of the church, i.e, buildings, order of worhip, etc., Here is a link to the site http://paganchristianity.org/ He has two books about the subject. I am reading pagan christianity.
It is completly documented and sourced and is very challenging. It explains why many of us are disgusted with "church" and "denominations." DON'T READ IT IF YOU CANT HANDLE BEING CHALLENGED.
I've read Pagan Christianity, fascinating book and definitely challenging. Another book titled Ekklesia - To the Roots of Biblical House Church Life, by Steve Atkerson. Lastly you might find this book of interest, Houses that Change the World, by Wolfgang Simson. However, he's pretty hostile toward traditional structures, so take him with a grain of salt. You can download a copy from this link,

http://www.agts.edu/syllabi/ce/summe...sum02_np_h.pdf
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Old 01-11-2009, 11:56 AM
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Re: What if Starbucks Marketed Like a Church?

Why does it seem every Pastor wants a "Mega-Church" and this corporatized structure?
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Re: What if Starbucks Marketed Like a Church?

The only just cause I can see for the "nice building" is that it lends a certain credibility in the community. Its built, its not going anywhere. Kind of like the bank that you deposit your money in... it is built to show strength, character, and trust. You put your money there because you believe it will be there when you need it.

This is about the only cause I can see for the "nice building". It allows people the opportunity to find "a spiritual bank" when they need one. Hopefully our reputation will have them stop by ours first....

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