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Old 11-01-2008, 02:07 PM
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Re: Bob Larson, "The Real Exorcist"

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Prax, who could possibly be the people whom Jesus turns away who actually cast out devils but were workers of iniquity? Do you believe one has to be valid in all areas to truly cast a devil out?
Not Bob Larson, that is who. Bob is a fake and a fraud. He preys on the weak minded.

You don't have to be doctrinally correct, however Satan does not cast out satan. But then again I did not say "Bob can't cast out demons because he is a sinner"....

HE is a fraud! He has been a fraud! His LIFE is a fraud. Don't you all get it? He is a fraud. He uses fraud to gain money. He does not DO anything. Research the man online. He manipulates weak minded individuals. He might as well be an Eastern Religious Guru the way he manipulates people into believing they are demon possessed by his "visualization" techniques.

Bob is a liar. He is a fraud. He has a history of repeating this just as many other modern day false prophets do. When they get outed they move on to a new technique.

Bob started as the self styled expert on rock and roll and how the devil uses it...he embellished his own history to do so. Reminds me of Mike Warnke.

When that no longer panned out he because the world's foremost expert on the occult...self titled of course. He did not author his own books either. He had ghost writers.

When the radio show no longer panned out, he took his act on the road to have "seminars".

He is Americanism at it's best...or worst. There is a sucker born every second and he knows that.

Just go through the links please I gave...do some more research on your own too.
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Old 11-01-2008, 02:09 PM
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Re: Bob Larson, "The Real Exorcist"

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Why would anyone be surprised if Larson says the UPC are Heretics? All strong Trinitarians do the same thing. I was called a Heretic by a number of them just recently.
I heard a radio show once where he had an "expert" on Cults.

Someone called in, a Oneness person I think it was, and the expert confirmed yes they are a cult and unsaved....

Well Bob denied such a notion accepting us as brethren, yet possibly mistaken.

At the time I was pleasantly surprised, but then I realized that Bob needs listenership...and Pentecostals tend to be gullible. He is like the T.D. Jakes of the radio talk show circuit...or was.
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Not Bob Larson, that is who. Bob is a fake and a fraud. He preys on the weak minded.

You don't have to be doctrinally correct, however Satan does not cast out satan. But then again I did not say "Bob can't cast out demons because he is a sinner"....

HE is a fraud! He has been a fraud! His LIFE is a fraud. Don't you all get it? He is a fraud. He uses fraud to gain money. He does not DO anything. Research the man online. He manipulates weak minded individuals. He might as well be an Eastern Religious Guru the way he manipulates people into believing they are demon possessed by his "visualization" techniques.

Bob is a liar. He is a fraud. He has a history of repeating this just as many other modern day false prophets do. When they get outed they move on to a new technique.

Bob started as the self styled expert on rock and roll and how the devil uses it...he embellished his own history to do so. Reminds me of Mike Warnke.

When that no longer panned out he because the world's foremost expert on the occult...self titled of course. He did not author his own books either. He had ghost writers.

When the radio show no longer panned out, he took his act on the road to have "seminars".

He is Americanism at it's best...or worst. There is a sucker born every second and he knows that.

Just go through the links please I gave...do some more research on your own too.
Pun intended?

I agree with you Prax.
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Old 11-01-2008, 02:41 PM
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Re: Bob Larson, "The Real Exorcist"

Thanks Ron...I see your foo shot is still active and working :-)
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Old 11-01-2008, 03:29 PM
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Re: Bob Larson, "The Real Exorcist"

Just wondering here, could God because he's so full of grace give some of these people that go to Bob true deliverence even though he got issues?

Kinda like someone with true faith getting healed at a Hinn metting??
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Re: Bob Larson, "The Real Exorcist"

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Just wondering here, could God because he's so full of grace give some of these people that go to Bob true deliverence even though he got issues?

Kinda like someone with true faith getting healed at a Hinn metting??
Sure He could. And I'm sure He does.
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Re: Bob Larson, "The Real Exorcist"

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Just wondering here, could God because he's so full of grace give some of these people that go to Bob true deliverence even though he got issues?

Kinda like someone with true faith getting healed at a Hinn metting??
God can do anything. But if they are getting deliverance is it because of Bob's placing the bible on their heads or some other reason? Can someone go to a JW minister and be delivered? Can someone go to a Mormon and be delivered? Can someone go to Bill Gates and be delivered?

My point here has been Bob is not practicing deliverance, He is practicing deception. He looks for "candidates" that he can work with....primed before hand with visualization. Those weakminded individuals are convinced they have demons.

This is auto suggestion...hypnotism. There have been people that ended up in jail because they were trying to cast demons out of people that were not demonically possessed, and ended up injuring that person.

They didn't have to do what Bob does in the bible..the prepping with an audience then looking for the right person to put on display. Demons act out often without coaxing or someone with the Spirit picks them out by the Spirit of God...not by mechanical coaxing and maniplation of people's guilt or past experiences.
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Re: Bob Larson, "The Real Exorcist"

Larson used Jesus' name, and I think despite the antics with the bible and the crucifixes, the enemy can be cast out even by him.

Like I said, I think we better watch what we say about these issues, since the only time Jesus commented on blaspheming the Spirit was when people criticized Him for casting out devils. Just 'cuz they're not with us doesn't mean they're not actually doing something, despite what we "feel". IMHO, of course.
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Re: Bob Larson, "The Real Exorcist"

A few quick observations.

* I would not consider Larson a fraud because he may have had people come back for deliverance. Scripture teaches the devils leave but make a return visit. If the house is swept empty, the devils bring their buddies and situations are even worse. I know of cases where people were delivered from demon possession only to return to the same environment doing the same stuff that bound them in the first place.

* Many confuse demonic oppression with demonic possession.

* I don't see in scripture much dialog with devils. The most dialog I remember is when the devils asked Jesus to be tossed into a herd of pigs. Other than that, a simple command and the devils were gone. Anyone with the Holy Ghost is able to cast out devils. I don't make it harder than what it is. If a person wants deliverance, I use the authority of Jesus Christ by the Blood of the Lamb and the devil's gone. It's not rocket science.
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Larson used Jesus' name, and I think despite the antics with the bible and the crucifixes, the enemy can be cast out even by him.

Like I said, I think we better watch what we say about these issues, since the only time Jesus commented on blaspheming the Spirit was when people criticized Him for casting out devils. Just 'cuz they're not with us doesn't mean they're not actually doing something, despite what we "feel". IMHO, of course.
Well said MB.

Personally , I'm always cautious when it comes to these things (casting out devils/praying for healing, etc), when it comes to declaring someone's actions to be of God or not.
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