There are good and bad people in BOTH political parties! Sometimes we demonize good people because of their party affiliation.
That being said, we have to look at party platforms and decide which party is closer to our values. As ugly as it seems, the Republican party seems to be a closer match to my values.
But there are more arrests coming from the liberal side this year....
just want to point that out.... but I am a partisan hack...
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With a name like Sweet Pea, how could I possibly take what you say wrong?
I have answered this question in the past. What I would do differently is not blindly give my vote until I had a firm committment to action and then something that I could hold politicians accountable to. Something that I could evaluate and revisit after their term. My sphere of influence is relatively small, so all I can do to stop abortions is attempt to influence those in my sphere of influence. However, the Presidents, Senators, State Governments, Judges, and Justices have a considerablt larger sphere of influence. I would not settle for rhetoric from those people. If those people are pro-life then the landscape should be considerably different. There was a time in our country when abortion was not so rampant and demanding action would have been key to me.
To your point about godly people not participating and allowing the ungodly to rule...that has been my point accept that the ungodly ruled under a cloak of "godliness" so the godly supported them.
Okay - Stew - it's time to put your money where your mouth is..... This is where the rubber meets the road.
Maybe because you feel so strongly about this, God is calling YOU to enlarge your sphere of influence to include these elected officials! They get in office and then you become the thorn in their side continually asking them, lobbying them, bombarding them with e-mails, letters, phone calls ect.... asking them WHAT they are going to do - they ran on a pro-life platform - now WHAT are they going to do to bring about this change and what can you do to help them accomplish this change!
Are you going to sit back and complain and criticize the Republican party for talking the talk - but not walking the walk - OR are you going to get involved?
We need men like yourself to STAND UP for righteousness and make their voices heard!
You are one of my favorite posters on this forum - I hope that I have not offended you in any way - I just felt impressed to say this to you!
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Okay - Stew - it's time to put your money where your mouth is..... This is where the rubber meets the road.
Maybe because you feel so strongly about this, God is calling YOU to enlarge your sphere of influence to include these elected officials! They get in office and then you become the thorn in their side continually asking them, lobbying them, bombarding them with e-mails, letters, phone calls ect.... asking them WHAT they are going to do - they ran on a pro-life platform - now WHAT are they going to do to bring about this change and what can you do to help them accomplish this change!
Are you going to sit back and complain and criticize the Republican party for talking the talk - but not walking the walk - OR are you going to get involved?
We need men like yourself to STAND UP for righteousness and make their voices heard!
You are one of my favorite posters on this forum - I hope that I have not offended you in any way - I just felt impressed to say this to you!
I've been trying like crazy to enlarge my sphere of influence here on AFF. So far all I've been able to do is fight with Ferd all day .
The message that I am trying to spread is one of urgency, accountability, clear and precise platforms, and real action...in other words you actually have to produce for my moral vote.
I am not easily offended. I hope that I do not come across as angry or offended.
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I've been trying like crazy to enlarge my sphere of influence here on AFF. So far all I've been able to do is fight with Ferd all day .
The message that I am trying to spread is one of urgency, accountability, clear and precise platforms, and real action...in other words you actually have to produce for my moral vote.
I am not easily offended. I hope that I do not come across as angry or offended.
hee hee. it is fun you know...
one question... based on the above requirement of producing to get your moral vote, does that mean you approve of GWB?
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one question... based on the above requirement of producing to get your moral vote, does that mean you approve of GWB?
I was a big supporter at one point, but not anymore. I don't even want to begin on how divergent his positions are from my ideals. In everything from immigration, fiscal issues, military decisions, etc... I almost blew a gasket when I saw that he was attempting to outsource the security of our ports to a Saudi company...and that Boeing lost the latest Air Froce contract to a foreighn company.
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Either the United States will destroy ignorance, or ignorance will destroy the United States. – W.E.B. DuBois
She was raised AG, and goes to an AG church when in Juneau, but her home church is an non-denominational church.
But... if she doesn't consider herself to be pentecostal, neither should we.
Next you'll be saying that just because Obama attended a Christian church for 20 years and has expressly stated he is not a Muslim and that he is a Christian, THAT HE'S NOT A MUSLIM! WAKE UP PEOPLE!
We have to ignore reality and mentally force these people into the religions that we can most associate with so as to make the decision for who should lead this country purely on emotion! How could I vote against Obama based on his voting record, his lack of military understanding, and his lack of experience without assuming he is part of a religious movement I consider heretical?
How can I vote for McCain based on his military and political experience, his idea for tightening up on frivolous government spending, his pro-life stance, and his consistent conservative voting without pretending that his VP is a pentecostal (who may or may not be saved according to my core doctrine) just like me?!?
The bottom line is religion should not matter. Issues important to religious people should certainly matter, but I have a hard time trying to believe any of these folks who make it this high into the political realm have any true religious grounding and principles. They can claim to be a member of whatever faith they want, but politics is a dirty, dirty game and only the toughest of the tough tend to survive. I don;t think you make it too far choosing honor and integrity over backstabbing and compromise.
I've been trying like crazy to enlarge my sphere of influence here on AFF. So far all I've been able to do is fight with Ferd all day .
The message that I am trying to spread is one of urgency, accountability, clear and precise platforms, and real action...in other words you actually have to produce for my moral vote.
I am not easily offended. I hope that I do not come across as angry or offended.
LOL!!! You can't be all bad if that is you in your avatar. I mean you look a little like Emmit Smith and have a pretty wife!
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
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Who you voting for Jeremy?
PM me the answer if you want. Or I understand, if you do not want to say.
Well, I actually like things about both candidates and spend a ridicules amount of time defending Obama due to the fact people refuse to be even a little objective.
I respect the fact that Obmab really seems to "get it" when it comes to people in lower socio-economic status and the struggles they go through wth health care and education at both a standard and higher learning level.
At the end of the day though, I can try and be as objective as I want, but a guy who voted in favor of minor girls being able to have out of state abortions without their parents knowledge or consent is not getting my vote. He supports pretty much every abortion rights thing he can including the most controversial like the one I mentioned and partial birth abortion.
McCain will no doubt be getting my vote, but I hope he takes serious note of some of the things that are garnering attention for Obama. It is not the traditional liberal thinking that is getting people excited for him, it is call for change in the areas that matter to people in lower and middle class. Enough of tax cuts for the rich and bid government bail outs for corrupt companies. it is time someone started looking out far the little guys, and if that does not become a major part of what McCain says, I dont think he has a shot at the white house.
That said, I really am not begrudgingly voting for the Maverick. I admire his commitment to reducing wasteful Washington spending, I think he is the right man for the job as commander in chief of the United States(military and foreign policy experience), he has the knowledge of how Washington works and a history of working against the system, and I think he has more integrity than any man who has ran for the office in my lifetime.
Well, I actually like things about both candidates and spend a ridicules amount of time defending Obama due to the fact people refuse to be even a little objective.
I respect the fact that Obmab really seems to "get it" when it comes to people in lower socio-economic status and the struggles they go through wth health care and education at both a standard and higher learning level.
At the end of the day though, I can try and be as objective as I want, but a guy who voted in favor of minor girls being able to have out of state abortions without their parents knowledge or consent is not getting my vote. He supports pretty much every abortion rights thing he can including the most controversial like the one I mentioned and partial birth abortion.
McCain will no doubt be getting my vote, but I hope he takes serious note of some of the things that are garnering attention for Obama. It is not the traditional liberal thinking that is getting people excited for him, it is call for change in the areas that matter to people in lower and middle class. Enough of tax cuts for the rich and bid government bail outs for corrupt companies. it is time someone started looking out far the little guys, and if that does not become a major part of what McCain says, I dont think he has a shot at the white house.
That said, I really am not begrudgingly voting for the Maverick. I admire his commitment to reducing wasteful Washington spending, I think he is the right man for the job as commander in chief of the United States(military and foreign policy experience), he has the knowledge of how Washington works and a history of working against the system, and I think he has more integrity than any man who has ran for the office in my lifetime.
Not much of a choice. But I too, go with McCain.
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