Maybe a study on the word used for "great" would shed more light on what He meant. I will fire up my Bible program and see if there's anything I can find on this setting of scripture.
I looked it up and it can pertain to quantity, but it can also pertain to quality.
However, that's not the point I'm making. Jesus can acknowledge the great faith someone had, but I don't believe them having that great faith is what produced the results anymore than having barely any faith would have.
In addition, Timothy and Paul had faith in God, yet Paul told Timothy to take wine for his stomach affliction. OM would contend that neither Paul nor Timothy had enough faith in God for healing, while I contend that any faith they had would do the job, but God didn't grant the healing. That action on God's part had nothing to do with Timothy's amount of faith, unless he had none at all.
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Rico I understood the risk, hubby said my call. My son was large 9 pounds. I'm not a big person, at 4 I was climbing the walls, I could not control my breathing this was not good for the baby, the contractions were none stop,there was no way I could go on like that. Plus he was my first, so I was even more stress and scared because I've never done this before, I hung in there for 10 hours like that, I had it. After the epidural I fell asleep, woke up an hour later having him, it took only three pushes out he came. The nurse told my hubby and parents this was the frst she ever seen an epidural work that good.
With my last two I needed nothing, in and out, but I knew what was going to take place so I was much more relaxed, this let the body do it's work, in fact the last two were so easy and painless I was board...
Sadly I can say this hurt even more the labor! They wanted to see if it passed first on it's own, it did within three hours. They did the ultrasonic at lest three times to make sure it was moving not stuck, it kept a moving and you knew it.
That first child is the worst one!!! When my wife (who wasn't my wife at the time) had our first child, he got stuck, and the doctor was late in getting there. They couldn't give her the epidural without an order from him, and she ending up tearing. This is the child I was talking about who was adopted out and we made contact with recently, only to find out he's very borderline retarded. I am convinced this happened to him because of a lack of oxygen. We have 4 other children, and none of them are retarded. Every time I think about him being retarded it breaks my heart and makes me want to go find that doctor and beat him senseless for being late!!!! Ugh!
Ok. I looked up the word "great" that was used in Matt 8:10. Here is what Strong's has to say. Sister, it looks like are going to lose this one.
Greek Strong's Number: 5118
Greek Word: τοσοῦτος
Transliteration: tosoutos
Phonetic Pronunciation:tos-oo'-tos
Root: from tosos (so much, apparently from <G3588> and <G3739>) and <G3778> (including its variations)
Cross Reference:
Part of Speech: adj
Vine's Words: Great, Long, Many
Usage Notes:
English Words used in KJV:
so much 7
so great 5
so many 4
so long 2
as large 1
these many 1
so many things 1
[Total Count: 21]
from tosos (so much; apparently from <G3588> (ho) and <G3739> (hos)) and <G3778> (houtos) (including its variations); so vast as this, i.e. such (in quantity, amount, number or space) :- as large, so great (long, many, much), these many.
—Strong's Talking Greek & Hebrew Dictionary
That's the same info I got, and I never said anything different. I did state many posts ago that it could refer to an amount, but not necessarily.
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I looked it up and it can pertain to quantity, but it can also pertain to quality.
However, that's not the point I'm making. Jesus can acknowledge the great faith someone had, but I don't believe them having that great faith is what produced the results anymore than having barely any faith would have.
In addition, Timothy and Paul had faith in God, yet Paul told Timothy to take wine for his stomach affliction. OM would contend that neither Paul nor Timothy had enough faith in God for healing, while I contend that any faith they had would do the job, but God didn't grant the healing. That action on God's part had nothing to do with Timothy's amount of faith, unless he had none at all.
And I can turn around and point out that Paul had a thorn in his flesh that He continued to trust God over, even though God didn't heal him of it. The whole point of trusting God is to trust Him whether He heals you or not. The focus isn't on getting healed.
He made the point that those who take medications for any reason don't have complete faith in God.
I ask him if he would apply the same to himself for his finances.
He refuses to answer, and you claim I'm making it personal. LOL!
Ooook.
He's speaking in generalities, and you are specifically talking about him being in school while his wife is working. You're trying to discredit him, HO. There are things I could say about what you are talking about, but I talk with him about that in private, not on a public forum during a debate on trusting God with one's health.
That's the same info I got, and I never said anything different. I did state many posts ago that it could refer to an amount, but not necessarily.
Ok. Read those definitions. Every one of them indicates "more than." That's a measurement.
from tosos (so much; apparently from <G3588> (ho) and <G3739> (hos)) and <G3778> (houtos) (including its variations); so vast as this, i.e. such (in quantity, amount, number or space) :- as large, so great (long, many, much), these many.
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