Kingdom Baptist article on oneness

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Yes it is.


Yes. ex-er'-khom-ahee
From G1537 and G2064; to issue (literally or figuratively): - come-(forth, out), depart (out of), escape, get out, go (abroad, away, forth, out, thence), proceed (forth), spread abroad.

Joh 16:27 for the Father Himself loves you, because you have loved Me and have believed that I came out from God.



Pertaining to does fit if used in a certain way and a certain view of the Logos. See not only did the Logos pertain to God the Logos WAS God. If the Logos means "faculty of reason" or "thought" then this pertained to God. Personally I like within as I see the Logos no matter how it get's defined by OPs as something that is internal to God. In fact "as the Father has life IN Himself so has he given the Son to have life in Himself also", In Him was life and the life was the light of men. I am the Way the Truth and the Life...1 John 1Jn 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, concerning the Word of Life,
1Jn 1:2 (for the Life was revealed, and we have seen it and bear witness, and show to you the everlasting Life, who was with the Father and was revealed to us),

God is the source of Eternal Life. It's of His very nature


Jesus is the Logos made flesh. He looks back in hindsight and speaks of the "past" in terms of when He was the Logos of God

PRAXEAS,

I love you man!

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

BTW who is the "us" Gen 3:22?

Cherubim, an angel.

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

So then are you saying that part of the article was correct? Is that how you explain Trinitarian scriptures?

??? I am unsure what you are asking. My point is when Trinitarians come down to brass tacks they cannot avoid being Tritheists. Not sure what that has to do with how I explain Trinitarian scripture but more of how they explain their doctrine.

The only reason Trinitarians are in this situation is they tried to form a paganistic concept into a Jewish monotheistic system thus you have this convoluted mess they call Trinitarianism. You have people who did not believe in such trying to be explained outside of the Hebrew mindset with Greek philosophy and other influences. They try to morph something that cannot be morphed. Thus you get a hybrid mess.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

??? I am unsure what you are asking. .

The article. The article aserts that when we look at certain verses our response is "Well you can't be right because if you were right that would be tritheism and Tritheism is wrong" basically...the article is saying that is just our answer to every verse they quote. That is what 'we' were discussing

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by 1399

Cherubim, an angel.

IF the US there are angels then the US in Gen 1:26 can be angels too. For the LORD said "man has become as one of us"...meaning we have a similar nature

[TRFrance]

[Jason B]

one week, still no reply.
Here is the last message, I suppose unless he answers, this thread is closed.


Pastor Joey,

I never got a response to the e-mail I sent you, nor did I see any changes to correct the errors on the oneness pentecostal article. Is there an update forth coming?

Perhaps if you are interested we could get together for lunch in Fort Worth sometime and discuss the Godhead and Biblical water baptism in the name of Jesus.

Bro. Jason

[Jermyn Davidson]

I hope you get a response. If you emphasize to Pastor Joey how you do not want to debate, but would rather discuss, in the spirit of Christian brotherhood, our differences, maybe you'll get further.