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Old 08-13-2008, 06:25 PM
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Re: Thoughts on Todd Bentley and Lakeland

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Just disagree and leave it alone.

Just a question here, should I run the rest of my responses on all the other threads by you first to kind of screen them,censor them and approve them, or , being an adult who just MAY have some feelings on certain topics that dont jive with yours, do I need some kind of Papal dispensation first to post them? Or should I just limit all future posts to "I disagree" and "Say no more"?

Is this a forum or what?
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Old 08-13-2008, 07:14 PM
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I remember this one time when we were kids in the Apostolic Church of Jesus, a small Oneness organization in CO and NM, which believed in Jesus name baptism but believed the Holy Spirit was imparted during or as a result of that baptism, and we didn't have all the hootin' and hollarin' that occured in the UPC...although we joined up later.

I remember for one of our conventions, we rented Brother Maurice Gordon's downtown palace to conduct our services. Knowing that we didn't have the Holy Ghost like THEY believed, one guy, who was notorious for going into the Catholic church with a tambourine running the isles, decided he would show us what the Holy Ghost really was.

He came in and was very loud in his worship to the point of disrupting the service and then the altar call.

My mom told me to not look at him and not pay attention to him because if what he had was the least bit authentic, then we need not judge or make fun of.

Same thing here...
Good advice.

If it's of God you don't want to be against it, but if it's of man it will come to nothing on it's own without our help.

Folks have to make their own choices. And deal with the consequences.

Maybe the way folks become less gullible is to be taken in their gullibility a time or two.
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Old 08-13-2008, 07:43 PM
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Re: Thoughts on Todd Bentley and Lakeland

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It goes to show how deceived you were to even listen a second to this nut case. He was a con man and crook to start with and YOU were DUPED! You should take the high road in this and say - WE WERE WRONG to showcase this man and his crazy antics. Anyone with any spiritual discernment at all knew this guy was so off it was not funny! YOU WERE DECEIVED and now you need to admit it and ask GOD to forgive you and ask everyone else to forgive you.

You should be ashamed of yourselves for airing his crazy antics and you owe everyone that viewed him on your God.tv a major apology.
I have been saved all of my life and have walked with God in a Prophetic Ministry since I was 16 and am 52 now and have never seen anyone miss as bad as this guy did. You guys just missed it and you should admit it. He was wrong and you were wrong to air him and promote him and you have done much damage to the Body of Christ.
I pastor a great church in Atlanta, GA and we have been hurt because GOOD PEOPLE got caught up in all that mess and left and now don't go to church anywhere. You have damaged a lot of good people across the nation by airing this guy.

Again, You should apologize to the world and put a public apology out in CHARISMA and buy a whole page in USA Today and APOLOGIZE to everyone as to how WRONG you were.
This whole mess sickens me from the first time I saw him. I warned our church and everyone I knew about him - but you guys were determined to showcase him and give him the world - well, I hope your happy about what you did! You are responsible and you have hurt a lot of people!

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My Email to Godtv@God.tv

It goes to show how deceived you were to even listen a second to this nut case. He was a con man and crook to start with and YOU were DUPED! You should take the high road in this and say - WE WERE WRONG to showcase this man and his crazy antics. Anyone with any spiritual discernment at all knew this guy was so off it was not funny! YOU WERE DECEIVED and now you need to admit it and ask GOD to forgive you and ask everyone else to forgive you.

You should be ashamed of yourselves for airing his crazy antics and you owe everyone that viewed him on your God.tv a major apology.
I have been saved all of my life and have walked with God in a Prophetic Ministry since I was 16 and am 52 now and have never seen anyone miss as bad as this guy did. You guys just missed it and you should admit it. He was wrong and you were wrong to air him and promote him and you have done much damage to the Body of Christ.
I pastor a great church in Atlanta, GA and we have been hurt because GOOD PEOPLE got caught up in all that mess and left and now don't go to church anywhere. You have damaged a lot of good people across the nation by airing this guy.

Again, You should apologize to the world and put a public apology out in CHARISMA and buy a whole page in USA Today and APOLOGIZE to everyone as to how WRONG you were.
This whole mess sickens me from the first time I saw him. I warned our church and everyone I knew about him - but you guys were determined to showcase him and give him the world - well, I hope your happy about what you did! You are responsible and you have hurt a lot of people!

Bishop W. Wayne Pugh
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Atlanta/Loganville, GA
Hello there Bishop, I hope they take your advice.

Somehow, I am a wee bit surprised that you are so strong against Bentley. Could be a complete oversight on my part (entirely possible), but I don't recall you voicing criticism about him in prior discussion.

I hope you and the church are prospering in the Lord,

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Old 08-13-2008, 08:14 PM
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I can promise you I was VEHEMENT against him. I talked to Lee Grady at length about it and others and did all I could do to expose how absolutely STUPID it was of anyone to follow this nut case. I have read about and followed the history of TB for several years - he is a SAD JOKE! I stood against him as a CON MAN the whole time!

Thanks Steve for asking and the church is doing well - growing weekly. It is challenging to find staff to accommodate the growth. I need staff so bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I can promise you I was VEHEMENT against him. I talked to Lee Grady at length about it and others and did all I could do to expose how absolutely STUPID it was of anyone to follow this nut case. I have read about and followed the history of TB for several years - he is a SAD JOKE! I stood against him as a CON MAN the whole time!

Thanks Steve for asking and the church is doing well - growing weekly. It is challenging to find staff to accommodate the growth. I need staff so bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
After Grady's latest article against Bentley I emailed him and said I thought that he should lead the parade of apologies seeing as that, at first, Grady supported the Lakeland revival and Bentley...

NEVER EXPECTED A RESPONSE, to my surrpise I got a personal email from Lee Grady today! lol He said that while he did want to believe that God was in it at first, that his subsequent articles were to raise a warning as to what he saw in Lakeland...
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I can promise you I was VEHEMENT against him. I talked to Lee Grady at length about it and others and did all I could do to expose how absolutely STUPID it was of anyone to follow this nut case. I have read about and followed the history of TB for several years - he is a SAD JOKE! I stood against him as a CON MAN the whole time!

Thanks Steve for asking and the church is doing well - growing weekly. It is challenging to find staff to accommodate the growth. I need staff so bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good I will take your word for it. Those are even stronger feeling than I had.

Can you tell me what these were based on? Was it the whole package? Or something about him in particular?

Needing staff is a good problem to have!
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Good I will take your word for it. Those are even stronger feeling than I had.

Can you tell me what these were based on? Was it the whole package? Or something about him in particular?
I have read and known about him and his molesting the boy years ago and his prison time and some other vices and I just knew he was a con. These guys found all that out - but tried to cover it all up.
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After Grady's latest article against Bentley I emailed him and said I thought that he should lead the parade of apologies seeing as that, at first, Grady supported the Lakeland revival and Bentley...

NEVER EXPECTED A RESPONSE, to my surrpise I got a personal email from Lee Grady today! lol He said that while he did want to believe that God was in it at first, that his subsequent articles were to raise a warning as to what he saw in Lakeland...
Very interesting!
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