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Old 08-06-2008, 09:51 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible

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I hear you, but you are scaring people.

I could also start a thread about whether it is unholy to sacrifice my children on an altar...

I dare say there are some with their emotions tied to a discussion like this, and that should mean something to you.
It would be a great discussion because we could kill it with Sola Scriptura... THOU SHALT NOT KILL

But this subject is open for debate and the only people that should be scared of debate are those who argue their feelings rather than the truth
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Old 08-06-2008, 09:53 PM
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Okay, Dora may shoot me for this one, BUT:

Scripture does not clearly condemn polygamy. However, I don't agree scripture supports it or, worse, recommends it. I simply think that it was allowed, in the same manner slavery was allowed, and laws were put into place to regulate the practice and keep it humane.

Polygamy is out of line with scriptural ideals in the same way that slavery is out of line with scriptural ideals. In fact, I would go so far as to say that if a slave-owner from another country and culture were converted to Christianity, even if he were a kind and fair owner, he should be encouraged to set his slaves free, in order to be in line with Christian principles.

Polygamy is confusing, it is chaos, it is not in the best interest of the children in the household, and God is not the author of confusion.

By the way, the ten virgins are not support for polygamy. They were bridesmaids who were supposed to light the way with their lamps for the groom and his groomsmen as he made his way to his bride's house. The virgins were not brides. They were unmarried women, and as such, they were virgins. I know. Novel idea.
So you believe he took 5 of them and left 5 right? Which one was the Bride?
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Old 08-06-2008, 09:54 PM
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It would be a great discussion because we could kill it with Sola Scriptura... THOU SHALT NOT KILL
Did God ever ask that children be killed? was it allowed under certain circumstances?
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Old 08-06-2008, 09:55 PM
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Ms Bratt.. concerning Slave owners.. there were many good and godly slave owners who were Christian that let their slaves go only when we passed a law to do so.. Scripture encourages SLAVES to OBEY their MASTERS..... which is now Employees who are owned by their Employers.... we should obey our Employers....

Just as owning slaves is not UnChristian it is Un American and Un Western.. and as thus not recommended
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So you believe he took 5 of them and left 5 right? Which one was the Bride?
None of them. It wasn't the bride's house.

I've read historical accounts of this before, maybe T Burk can help me out here. The bridesmaids would light the way to the bride's house for the groom and groomsmen.

So the 5 without lit lamps were not able to participate in the procession to the bride's home, and had to go out and purchase oil for their lamps. By the time they caught up, the wedding was in progress, and the bridesmaids weren't allowed in.
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Did God ever ask that children be killed? was it allowed under certain circumstances?
I love it brother.. it could be a lot of fun... .and we can go there next.. start a new thread... lets talk Polygamy right now
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Old 08-06-2008, 09:57 PM
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Wow slavery and polygamy are equal?????? uh no!
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None of them. It wasn't the bride's house.

I've read historical accounts of this before, maybe T Burk can help me out here. The bridesmaids would light the way to the bride's house for the groom and groomsmen.

So the 5 without lit lamps were not able to participate in the procession to the bride's home, and had to go out and purchase oil for their lamps. By the time they caught up, the wedding was in progress, and the bridesmaids weren't allowed in.
The Groom came for his Bride.... he took 5 of them into the type of the rapture for the marriage.... why bother taking the five if they were not Bride?
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Old 08-06-2008, 09:58 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible

I believe there is much more than "feelings" behind my argument against the practice of polygamy. In researching the cultures that still engage in polygamy, I find that the practice is fraught with abuse of women and neglect of children. I can't see how this lifestyle aligns itself with Christ-like living. If you seek to live a Christ-like existence, then the practice of polygamy does not appear to be the best way to do it. One wife is usually prefer above another, the children of the preferred wife receive a greater inheritance or more attention from the father. It appears to be the antithesis of the teachings of Jesus.
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Ms Bratt.. concerning Slave owners.. there were many good and godly slave owners who were Christian that let their slaves go only when we passed a law to do so.. Scripture encourages SLAVES to OBEY their MASTERS..... which is now Employees who are owned by their Employers.... we should obey our Employers....

Just as owning slaves is not UnChristian it is Un American and Un Western.. and as thus not recommended
I disagree. As respectfully as possible.

A workman is worthy of his hire.
God is no respecter of persons.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Submit to one another.
Prefer one another.
Have all things in common.
If you have respect of persons, you commit sin.

I could go on and on....
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