Polygamy in the Bible - Page 9

Aquila · #81 08-06-2008, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by COOPER

Question is; do they all share the same bed?
More than one wife is too kinky to be holy...........right?

LOL

C’mon…truth be told…most husbands and wives today have their personal “things” they do in private that might make other couples blush in embarrassment…and holiness isn’t an issue. Biblically speaking, in ancient Biblical culture, the stipulations of the marriage covenant were determined by the individuals involved. If a married couple decided to add another to the contract there was no violation. Now if one of them engaged in relations with another against their spouses will or without their knowledge, outside of the marriage covenant, it was adultery.

But in today’s society….it would be viewed as a bit too freaky. LOL

LUKE2447 · #82 08-06-2008, 09:02 AM

Aquila very true. People today have there paradigm of marriage that really does not fit the model the Bible gives.

ILG · #83 08-06-2008, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by LUKE2447

your point? Many husbands of one wife have that same issue. Also many view that strife as a curse do to a few failures of his.

My point is really that I fail to see why some men here are arguing for polygamy....beyond the fact that the Bible doesn't outright condemn it....I made the piont that I think God did that more for the protection of women than that he was really saying it was okay. I also made the points that God said Adam was given Eve only. God was not advocating polygamy here. He also gave the command for the bishop to have only one wife for a reason. What do you think that reason was?

LUKE2447 · #84 08-06-2008, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG

My point is really that I fail to see why some men here are arguing for polygamy....beyond the fact that the Bible doesn't outright condemn it....I made the piont that I think God did that more for the protection of women than that he was really saying it was okay. I also made the points that God said Adam was given Eve only. God was not advocating polygamy here. He also gave the command for the bishop to have only one wife for a reason. What do you think that reason was?

Well as I pointed the word "one" in context does no make sense with general understanding of the social aspects or in relationship to previous monarchs etc... So I believe Paul is speaking more to the points he made before in teh sense on one who has control of his family. Thus "one" is in reference to "first" wife not saying just one. This would be a issue of divorce or other issues that shows a break down in the covenant. Thus one who had such issues has had poor guidance or failure in the home etc... among other things and should not be in church leadership.

ILG · #85 08-06-2008, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by LUKE2447

Well as I pointed the word "one" in context does no make sense with general understanding of the social aspects or in relationship to previous monarchs etc... So I believe Paul is speaking more to the points he made before in teh sense on one who has control of his family. Thus "one" is in reference to "first" wife not saying just one. This would be a issue of divorce or other issues that shows a break down in the covenant. Thus one who had such issues has had poor guidance or failure in the home etc... among other things.

Okay, that is your opinion, but again, why argue the point? Is this something you are advocating for or simply making the statement that God doesn't outright condemn it or call it an abomination? And again, when God created the earth and it made more sense for a man to have more than one wife than at any other time for the reasons of procreation, God only gave Adam one wife. The only time God actually controlled the outcome of number of wives, there was one.

ForeverBlessed · #86 08-06-2008, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG

In the beginning, God gave Adam one wife, Eve. He didn't add Jane or Sally and tell Adam to have fun since populating the earth would be easier with more wives.

Thank God for that. After that, men took the reigns and decided that they knew better than God on the subject and thought things would be better with more than one wife. (More wives equals more sex.) The Bible bears out that there is much jealousy with polygamy. I think the Bible does not condemn it or women who are in polygamous situations, yet hated, would be thrown out on their ear. I think we can view this as a protection of women and not a condoning of polygamy. Since God made Adam one wife and said that only men of one wife can be leaders, that tells you that men who have more than one wife are not leadership material and not in the perfect will of God. End of story.

I agree with you and Miss Brat...

I believe that in many ways people adopted the culture around them... even as we do today..not the perfect will of God... but I think the laws were given to govern.

I feel God's perfect will for man/woman is to be in the relationship as Christ is with the church... two becoming one...oneness in him.

Eph 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 32This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

In that two becoming one doesn't leave room for multiples.. sorry.

Aquila · #87 08-06-2008, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG

My point is really that I fail to see why some men here are arguing for polygamy....beyond the fact that the Bible doesn't outright condemn it....I made the point that I think God did that more for the protection of women than that he was really saying it was okay. I also made the points that God said Adam was given Eve only. God was not advocating polygamy here. He also gave the command for the bishop to have only one wife for a reason. What do you think that reason was?

I hope you don’t think I’m arguing “for polygamy”. I’m just telling what I believe is the truth about a subject as I understand it. Here’s the issue with polygamy…not only does God not outright condemn it…he commands it (in the case of Liverite Marriage and rape) and gave Moses Laws by which to govern it and concubinage. If it was morally repugnant or undesirable in God’s sight, the giving of the Law would be the opportunity to express such sentiment. God blesses, and the Scriptures even praise, men who had multiple wives. No hint of condemnation is given. And after studying ancient marriage customs I’m convinced that marriage in ancient Israel was more of a social contract to be closed or opened as the individuals in said contract felt was necessary. And as long as none violated their covenant by violating their spouse’s will or taking that which belonged to another, God issues no sanction or condemnation.

Now…fast forward to the New Testament. I believe the Bishop was to serve as an example to the church. Not only does monogamy provide more harmony in the home but monogamy better symbolizes the relationship between Christ (one Lord) and his bride (one church).

LUKE2447 · #88 08-06-2008, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG

Okay, that is your opinion, but again, why argue the point? Is this something you are advocating for or simply making the statement that God doesn't outright condemn it or call it an abomination? And again, when God created the earth and it made more sense for a man to have more than one wife than at any other time for the reasons of procreation, God only gave Adam one wife. The only time God actually controlled the outcome of number of wives, there was one.

Actually you are incorrect he told David he would have "given" him more if he would have asked than take Beth Sheba. Also God told one to take his brothers wife so his lineage would continue.

Also the law gave laws on situation concerned in polygamy. The problem you are taking the initial instance and trying to say THIS IS IT or THIS IS BEST! Well hate to bust your bubble but that logic doesn't work as God worked within polygamy many times to do what he wanted.

LUKE2447 · #89 08-06-2008, 10:16 AM

Aquila of course to most of the people they think LEAVING A CHILD without a father is better than taking the woman to be his wife along with his other wife. Actually it is sickening to think about the result of the current mentality.

ILG · #90 08-06-2008, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverBlessed

I agree with you and Miss Brat...

I believe that in many ways people adopted the culture around them... even as we do today..not the perfect will of God... but I think the laws were given to govern.

I feel God's perfect will for man/woman is to be in the relationship as Christ is with the church... two becoming one...oneness in him.

Eph 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 32This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

In that two becoming one doesn't leave room for multiples.. sorry.

Hi FB!