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Old 03-02-2007, 01:52 PM
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True however we were discussing personal prophecy. I have PERSONALLY seen up close homes destroyed beyond repair over personal prophecy. However after saying that I do believe the gift is in the church today. But 1 miss and your out you don't get a second try. Prophecy and guessing is not the same.
That is why we are not to depise personal prophecy but put it to the tests and checks found in scripture, the fact is that there hasnt been much teaching done on this wonderful gift therefore abuses abound.

My point is when weighed in the balance more damage has been done to the church and individuals through bad teaching than spiritual gifts gone bad.
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Old 03-02-2007, 01:53 PM
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Should this not be used for the same standard of preaching? After all, lives are being weighed in the balance. Did you preach what God wanted or what man wanted? (you-not being you specific)
How my preaching has not told you marry so and so saith the Lord!!! My preaching has not said sell all you have move across the country saith the Lord. My preaching has said the Lord doesn't care that we are having this "affair" saith the Lord.
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Old 03-02-2007, 02:23 PM
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Should this not be used for the same standard of preaching? After all, lives are being weighed in the balance. Did you preach what God wanted or what man wanted? (you-not being you specific)
these are vastly different things. can you explain what you mean by preaching and missing?

are you suggesting that if a guy preaches about standards but cant back up the claim with scripture, or you can refute his claim with scripture, that this is the same as some guy who claims in a prophetic utterance that something will happen but doesnt?
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Old 03-19-2007, 04:56 PM
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these are vastly different things. can you explain what you mean by preaching and missing?

are you suggesting that if a guy preaches about standards but cant back up the claim with scripture, or you can refute his claim with scripture, that this is the same as some guy who claims in a prophetic utterance that something will happen but doesnt?
Yes, where I am going with this, (been awhile since I posted I hope I remember) is/was that some hold a prophet as hearing from God so he can't be allowed to miss, but it is just as important when a preacher gets behind the pulpit speaking to a mass of people that he hear from God and not miss either.

Who knows if someone in the congregration it could be their last opportunity to hear the truth. Is that not more important?
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Old 03-20-2007, 01:05 PM
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How about prophecies made about your ministry or the direction of your life??? Do you think of them as road-signs "silently" guiding your life or milemarkers "confirming" what had been previously said?

I, of course, believe that prophecies are still for today.... and could be right or wrong depending on who said them.... what are some guidelines that you use in deciding whether to write them off or not....
Hi Malvaro,When someone tells you about direction of your life is the gift of knowledge it is not prophecy.,prophecy is to preach or teach or fortell.Prophecy has a three fold meaning.If someone gives direction by gift of knowledge it may come to pass if you obey but prophecy(fortell) will come to pass if it's not head realm prophecy.
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Old 03-27-2007, 10:44 PM
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Prophecy can be towards and Individual or group.It can be towards a Nation or Ethnic or upon the Righteous or UnRighteous.Upon Males or Females.Prophecy can come as Punishment or Blessings.It is as GOD chooses and he is the one that actually doing the spiritual work not ourselves.


Angels have been seen in this day and age,Prophecy also has been done in this day and age.Even when the world as it is.As it says ALL Good Gifts come from God,unto whome HE WILLS IT.As he Performs and doeth the GOOD WORK

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