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Old 07-13-2008, 11:33 PM
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What say you... about Emmanuel?

Found this interesting article.... just seeking feedback on it

The King James Translators were Trinitarians .

If you study the name Immanuel, or "Emmanuel," you will find that it is a Hebrew word that does not mean "God with us," but "God is with us." There is a world of difference! The KJV translators got it wrong. I love the version of the Holy Bible that was authorized by King James I of England, and first published in 1611, and I mostly study and write from it. However, we must remember that these men were Trinitarian in belief, and this influence is very obvious in some places, and not so obvious in others. Some of the more recent translators have corrected their mistakes. The Complete Jewish Bible, the NCV, The New English Bible, The Message, and the New Living Translation all agree with the Holman CSB when it says, "And they will name him Immanuel, which is translated ' God is with us' ."
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Old 07-14-2008, 12:01 AM
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And what does that change?
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Re: What say you... about Emmanuel?

As Father, Jesus is God over us.
As Son, Jesus is God with us.
As Holy Spirit, Jesus is God in us.
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Old 07-14-2008, 03:16 PM
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As Father, Jesus is God over us.
As Son, Jesus is God with us.
As Holy Spirit, Jesus is God in us.
So you believe Jesus was his own Father?
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So you believe Jesus was his own Father?
I would not state it that way but I do believe that Jesus is the Father in the Son.

I believe that the child born and son given who was prophesied in Isaiah 9:6 is:
the Angel of Great Counsel (or the Wonderful Counselor depending on translation)
the Mighty God
the Everlasting Father
the Prince of Peace

Let's not get into an argument over semantics.
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Jesus had two fathers, The Father, and The Holy Spirit
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Jesus had two fathers, The Father, and The Holy Spirit
He had three fathers if you count His step father, Joseph.
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He had three fathers if you count His step father, Joseph.
Ooops... you're right!
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