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Old 07-07-2008, 03:23 PM
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Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

Put more plainly, is it possible for a person who smokes/uses tobacco products to truly be a Christian? Is it possible for that person to be saved while still smoking/chewing/dipping? Why or why not?
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Old 07-07-2008, 03:26 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

Yes.

While they might be committing a sin against their health they can still be a child of God. However, I don't think it is God's will that any should remain in bondage and any addiction IMO keeps us in bondage.
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Old 07-07-2008, 03:32 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

Of course not.

Just send me a list and I'll write "yes" or "no" next to every single activity.
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Old 07-07-2008, 04:14 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

1 Cor 3:16-17 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.


Does destroy mean lost because tobacco products defile the temple of God.
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Old 07-07-2008, 04:19 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

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1 Cor 3:16-17 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.


Does destroy mean lost because tobacco products defile the temple of God.
Are you sure the word "defile" refers to a physical defilement, or a spiritual defilement?
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1 Cor 3:16-17 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.


Does destroy mean lost because tobacco products defile the temple of God.
If smoking tobacco is an eternal sin because it defiles the body, then so is drinking soda, most fast and fried foods, NOT exercising, etc.....
Disgusting as it is, I have always wondered why smoking is singled out. (Probably because it IS disgusting and thus easy to be.)
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Are you sure the word "defile" refers to a physical defilement, or a spiritual defilement?
is it either/or or both?
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is it either/or or both?
Well, if it refers to physical defilement, we have a lot more to worry about than tobacco. Stuff like artificial sweeteners, preservatives, red meat, excess food intake, carbonated sodas, caffeine, and the list goes on.......
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If smoking tobacco is an eternal sin because it defiles the body, then so is drinking soda, most fast and fried foods, NOT exercising, etc.....
Disgusting as it is, I have always wondered why smoking is singled out. (Probably because it IS disgusting and thus easy to be.)
I've kinda wondered the same thing. . . I also think it is a disgusting habit, but I also think we tend to categorize sin and I really don't think God does. Sin is sin, and all sin can be remitted through the blood of Jesus!
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

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Are you sure the word "defile" refers to a physical defilement, or a spiritual defilement?
physical defilement................our body is the temple.


1 Cor 6:19-20 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
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