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05-30-2008, 12:39 PM
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Re: What would you do
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I hear what you are saying. But Jesus didn't say God allowed the divorce. He specifically said Moses allowed it because of the hardness of people's hearts.
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And Moses was commissioned by God to govern the people as a law giver. So by default, the entire body of Law was permitted by God and God even acted on it in judgment when it was violated.
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05-30-2008, 12:44 PM
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Re: What would you do
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Not interested in what some would say. I am talking about what JESUS said.
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My point is that if we interpret Christ’s teachings to indicate that Moses was wrong about divorce (as I thought you proposed)….then we open the possibility of Moses being wrong about other things as well.
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05-30-2008, 12:48 PM
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Re: What would you do
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And Moses was commissioned by God to govern the people as a law giver. So by default, the entire body of Law was permitted by God and God even acted on it in judgment when it was violated.
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I didn't say God didn't let it stand when Moses said it, did I? I said he was wrong about it and Jesus made it right when He came to Earth.
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05-30-2008, 12:50 PM
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Re: What would you do
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My point is that if we interpret Christ’s teachings to indicate that Moses was wrong about divorce (as I thought you proposed)….then we open the possibility of Moses being wrong about other things as well.
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Not necessarily. I don't see where Jesus corrected anything else Moses did. Do you? Acknowledging the fact that divorce is something Moses allowed, but not God, based on the words of Jesus, does not amount to a door being opened for everything that Moses said to be questioned.
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05-30-2008, 12:50 PM
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Re: What would you do
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I didn't say God didn't let it stand when Moses said it, did I? I said he was wrong about it and Jesus made it right when He came to Earth.
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I hate to say it but the 'hoper is right on this. Moses didn't get to make it up as he went along. God told Moses to put it in there.
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05-30-2008, 12:53 PM
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Re: What would you do
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Not necessarily. I don't see where Jesus corrected anything else Moses did. Do you? Acknowledging the fact that divorce is something Moses allowed, but not God, based on the words of Jesus, does not amount to a door being opened for everything that Moses said to be questioned.
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He tossed the whole Mosaic Law...thus a New Covenant.
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05-30-2008, 12:58 PM
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He tossed the whole Mosaic Law...thus a New Covenant.
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So now the Ten Commandments mean zilch? BTW, I get what you are saying.
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05-30-2008, 01:03 PM
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So now the Ten Commandments mean zilch? BTW, I get what you are saying.
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The New Covenant has some similarities to the Old, much like two contracts may have similar language. Nine of the ten commandments are repeated in the NT but really we just have one commandment.
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05-30-2008, 01:13 PM
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Re: What would you do
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The New Covenant has some similarities to the Old, much like two contracts may have similar language. Nine of the ten commandments are repeated in the NT but really we just have one commandment.
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I agree, but it's still a sin to commit murder, adultery, etc., whether the NT mentions them or not. Can't remember where it is (Hebrews?) that talks about the Law being a schoolmaster to make us aware of our sins. I don't see them throwing out the OT Law, so much as affirming its intended purpose.
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05-30-2008, 01:18 PM
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Re: What would you do
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I agree, but it's still a sin to commit murder, adultery, etc., whether the NT mentions them or not. Can't remember where it is (Hebrews?) that talks about the Law being a schoolmaster to make us aware of our sins. I don't see them throwing out the OT Law, so much as affirming its intended purpose.
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I see Paul tossing it out as far as a law that needs to be obeyed it has fulfilled its purpose and now is done. Complete. Finished.
Gal. 3:19Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
24Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
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