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05-29-2008, 11:40 PM
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Re: What would you do
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Originally Posted by James Griffin
Interestingly enough, several articles came out today saying that a slim majority of the PEOPLE in California now favor Gay Marriage for the first time. IF that is the case changing judges would be irrelevant?
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oohhhhhh boy.
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05-30-2008, 06:41 AM
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Re: What would you do
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Originally Posted by Joelel
Well Doc,If you are a Doc I can't believe you would even ask a question like this.
If it's a sin to be gay then it's a sin to marry gays.
1 Cor.6:9: Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,(Homosexuals)10: Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God
If a man had more then one wife,he would not be her own.
1Cor.7
[2] Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
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Every woman in the arrangement WOULD have her own husband.... but scripture says nothing about the man having is OWN wife
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05-30-2008, 08:53 AM
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Re: What would you do
I expect the same kind of judgment that hit Sodom to come to California. Saints there should be alert and praying about it.
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05-30-2008, 09:33 AM
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Re: What would you do
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
I expect the same kind of judgment that hit Sodom to come to California. Saints there should be alert and praying about it.
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So goes Calif. so goes the rest of the Nation.
Listen, just last year we voted overwhelmingly NO gay Marriage, and
So did most other states BUT obviously this can be side stepped
to fit the liberal agenda. So be ware, it's coming your way too
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05-30-2008, 10:36 AM
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Re: What would you do
Originally Posted by Joelel
Well Doc,If you are a Doc I can't believe you would even ask a question like this.
If it's a sin to be gay then it's a sin to marry gays.
1 Cor.6:9: Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,(Homosexuals)10: Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God
If a man had more then one wife,he would not be her own.
1Cor.7
[2] Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
(Dr Vaughn)Every woman in the arrangement WOULD have her own husband.... but scripture says nothing about the man having is OWN wife
jl
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05-30-2008, 10:39 AM
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Re: What would you do
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Originally Posted by jlogan
Originally Posted by Joelel
Well Doc,If you are a Doc I can't believe you would even ask a question like this.
If it's a sin to be gay then it's a sin to marry gays.
1 Cor.6:9: Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,(Homosexuals)10: Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God
If a man had more then one wife,he would not be her own.
1Cor.7
[2] Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
(Dr Vaughn)Every woman in the arrangement WOULD have her own husband.... but scripture says nothing about the man having is OWN wife
jl
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If I have one woman as my wife.. I have my OWN wife.... then if I choose another woman she is also my own wife.. she is not the wife of another.. she is my OWN wife... never says my ONLY wife
For example:
We are all in the candy store.... candy is everywhere but its not all mine until I buy this one piece.. that piece is MY OWN CANDY... and then i decide I want this piece to... I buy it and that piece becomes MY OWN candy,... not my ONLY candy.....
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05-30-2008, 10:48 AM
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Re: What would you do
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
If I have one woman as my wife.. I have my OWN wife.... then if I choose another woman she is also my own wife.. she is not the wife of another.. she is my OWN wife... never says my ONLY wife
For example:
We are all in the candy store.... candy is everywhere but its not all mine until I buy this one piece.. that piece is MY OWN CANDY... and then i decide I want this piece to... I buy it and that piece becomes MY OWN candy,... not my ONLY candy.....
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Reminds me of Fiddler on the Roof, "This is mine, and this is mine, and this is mine, and this is mine and this is mine... [turns and sees Motel the tailor] well this is not mine" But Reb Tevye was speaking of his five daughters...
GOD BLESS!
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05-30-2008, 10:49 AM
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Re: What would you do
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
It looks as if several states will begin recognizing Gay marriages.....
Whats next? Of course the next battle with be for Polygamous marriages and it will eventually pass... trust me who would have ever thought Gay Marriage would.....
So. Polygamy is no longer against the law... it's not forbidden in scripture.... what would you tell a member of your church or circle of friends that wanted you to marry them.... would you, yes or no?
If no,, what scriptures would you give them to show them they are going against Gods ordinances.....
of course your cant use the "breaking the law" argument anymore.....
Just thought it would make for interesting exchange of ideas.. trust me it is coming in our lifetime.....
You can show scriptures against Gay marriage where it is forbidden.. can we do the same for Polygamy?
and NO I DO NOT BELIEVE in Polygamy.. just up late and thinking too much
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Churches can set their own standards and bylaws. The only thing that might be of question is if the church tried to force a polygamous family from attending services open to the public.
As for polygamy, various Christian groups have practiced it down through history for various reasons. Many of the so called Apostolic Modalistic groups down through history also practiced polygamy. Martin Luther allowed for it and even the Catholic church allowed for it on several occasions. The Pilgrims, though monogamous in marriage, lived in close quarters where intercourse was often had while sleeping in a room or even in the same bed with other couples in the family. Some of the beds the Pilgrims used were even equipped with a wooden board dividing adult beds to separate the two couples sharing that bed to offer some semblance of privacy. The point is…accepted social morals about marriage and love making fluctuate and have fluctuated down through history.
But biblically speaking, Paul appears to indicate that every man was to have his own “wife” and a bishop couldn’t have more than one wife. So biblically one could argue that according to the New Testament monogamy is God’s perfect will for man and should be the form of union ordained by the church.
Here’s a question I always had. Let’s say you’re a missionary in a country that allows men to have more than one wife. A man comes to church and is saved and the next service he brings his five wives and 12 children. In this culture a divorced woman has little hopes of ever honorably supporting herself without resorting to prostitution. Do you force him to divorce 4 of his wives? What do you do ask that he do with the children?
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05-30-2008, 10:53 AM
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Re: What would you do
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Originally Posted by Grasshopper
Churches can set their own standards and bylaws. The only thing that might be of question is if the church tried to force a polygamous family from attending services open to the public.
As for polygamy, various Christian groups have practiced it down through history for various reasons. Many of the so called Apostolic Modalistic groups down through history also practiced polygamy. Martin Luther allowed for it and even the Catholic church allowed for it on several occasions. The Pilgrims, though monogamous in marriage, lived in close quarters where intercourse was often had while sleeping in a room with other couples in the family. Some of the beds the Pilgrims used were even equipped with a wooden board dividing adult beds to separate couples to offer some semblance of privacy. The point is…accepted social morals about marriage and love making fluctuate and have fluctuated down through history.
But biblically speaking, Paul appears to indicate that every man was to have his own “wife” and a bishop couldn’t have more than one wife. So biblically speaking one could argue that according to the New Testament monogamy is God’s perfect will for man and should be the form of union ordained by the church.
Here’s a question I always had. Let’s say you’re a missionary in a country that allows men to have more than one wife. A man comes to church and is saved and the next service he brings his five wives and 12 children. In this culture a divorced woman has little hopes of ever honorably supporting herself without resorting to prostitution. Do you force him to divorce 4 of his wives? What do you do ask that he do with the children?
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In the same room? Right next to each other with a board separating them? Uhhhhhhhhh, I don't think I could go for that! Me and the pilgrim wife would have just had to find us a place out in the woods to partake of the marital blessing.
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05-30-2008, 10:54 AM
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Re: What would you do
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Originally Posted by Grasshopper
Churches can set their own standards and bylaws. The only thing that might be of question is if the church tried to force a polygamous family from attending services open to the public.
As for polygamy, various Christian groups have practiced it down through history for various reasons. Many of the so called Apostolic Modalistic groups down through history also practiced polygamy. Martin Luther allowed for it and even the Catholic church allowed for it on several occasions. The Pilgrims, though monogamous in marriage, lived in close quarters where intercourse was often had while sleeping in a room with other couples in the family. Some of the beds the Pilgrims used were even equipped with a wooden board dividing adult beds to separate couples to offer some semblance of privacy. The point is…accepted social morals about marriage and love making fluctuate and have fluctuated down through history.
But biblically speaking, Paul appears to indicate that every man was to have his own “wife” and a bishop couldn’t have more than one wife. So biblically speaking one could argue that according to the New Testament monogamy is God’s perfect will for man and should be the form of union ordained by the church.
Here’s a question I always had. Let’s say you’re a missionary in a country that allows men to have more than one wife. A man comes to church and is saved and the next service he brings his five wives and 12 children. In this culture a divorced woman has little hopes of ever honorably supporting herself without resorting to prostitution. Do you force him to divorce 4 of his wives? What do you do ask that he do with the children?
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all I can say is RUH ROH...... you done messed up now brother.. you know better than to actually think outside the box
Some nutcase would absolutely tell them to divorce.... and then have NO SCRIPTURE for doing so.....
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