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03-25-2008, 06:31 PM
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Re: Should standards be an issue when witnessing?
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Unfortunately you are in the small minority of standard bearers with good attitudes. Line up 100 standard keepers and you would be hard pressed to to find a dozen who do not put their noses up in the air like their junk doesn't stink. From what I've observed, in your comments earlier in the thread I think people saw the love of Jesus, not the clothing you wore. If I were a betting man, I would lay money that the person who asked you about Jesus would have asked you about Jesus if you were wearing a modest non-standardized outfit.
I noticed something in your post I would appreciate clarification. In the following post you said you believe standards to be biblical. Does your use of the word biblical mean the same as salvational? Can something be biblical in your opinion and not salvational?
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Great question, I would also like to hear what is considered biblical? Please include scriptures.
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03-25-2008, 06:37 PM
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Re: Should standards be an issue when witnessing?
I'm curious how a legalist would answer the question.
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I noticed something in your post I would appreciate clarification. In the following post you said you believe standards to be biblical. Does your use of the word biblical mean the same as salvational? Can something be biblical in your opinion and not salvational?
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Great question, I would also like to hear what is considered biblical? Please include scriptures.
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Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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03-25-2008, 07:18 PM
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Re: Should standards be an issue when witnessing?
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(Disclaimer: the following words are based solely on my experience, and my opinions. I am sincerely expressing how I feel. )
If you feel like you have to sidestep and be all secretive of the standards issues when witnessing, and then sneak them in once a person is good and hooked, well doesn't that tell you something?
When I was first witnessed too, and came to chuch, all I was told was that Jesus loved me just the way I was, and that he wanted nothing more than to have a relationship with me. And that there was nothing I could do to earn my salvation, that Jesus did it all for me. Oh, well, there were 3 steps that I needed to do, but that was it.
Except, for once I did the 3 steps, then it turned out that Jesus didn't love me just the way I was, and he wanted a whole lot more than just a relationship, oh, and the steps I needed to do? Turns out they were neverending.
I don't know. Maybe I would have handled it better if it has been clearly and honestly portrayed upfront.
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13 You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love. 14 The entire law is summed up in a single command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other. Galatians 5:13-15 (NIV)
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03-25-2008, 07:26 PM
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Re: Should standards be an issue when witnessing?
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What meaneth BUTP for the ignorant?
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03-25-2008, 07:32 PM
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Re: Should standards be an issue when witnessing?
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What meaneth BUTP for the ignorant?
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Bring up this post.
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13 You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love. 14 The entire law is summed up in a single command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other. Galatians 5:13-15 (NIV)
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03-25-2008, 07:37 PM
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Re: Should standards be an issue when witnessing?
I would guess butp means the person's backside is up in the air.
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What meaneth BUTP for the ignorant?
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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03-25-2008, 09:42 PM
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Re: Should standards be an issue when witnessing?
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We have a few old ladies left at our church that are like this and everyone tries to keep them away from any newcomers. Sad.
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OMG! There is a really old lady at our church that we have to do that to, when we are at the altar praying with people we have to rush to keep her away.
One time before we were even finished praying with this lady, she started telling her how we aren't supposed to cut our hair. I haven't seen her since.
My pastor preaches standards behind the pulpit but ONLY when he knows it's only the saints. When I first came in 2005 I don't remember anyone ever talking to me about standards, God did it all.
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03-26-2008, 05:27 AM
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Re: Should standards be an issue when witnessing?
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My pastor preaches standards behind the pulpit but ONLY when he knows it's only the saints. When I first came in 2005 I don't remember anyone ever talking to me about standards, God did it all.
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No God didn't ,
It was monkey see , monkey doo
you just fell in place with everyone else because you are psychologically unstable and you want everyone to love you and accept you so you followed along. No God or Spirit involved there..
TIC
Hope you don't mind being told that...
If you do , you wont last in here.
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03-26-2008, 07:46 AM
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Re: Should standards be an issue when witnessing?
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No God didn't ,
It was monkey see , monkey doo
you just fell in place with everyone else because you are psychologically unstable and you want everyone to love you and accept you so you followed along. No God or Spirit involved there..
TIC
Hope you don't mind being told that...
If you do , you wont last in here.
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Glad you are finally understanding how peer pressure works.
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03-26-2008, 07:54 AM
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Re: Should standards be an issue when witnessing?
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Originally Posted by CC1
Of course not! Every educated woman in the world longs to have someone tell her she is a jezebel and going to hell for puttiing on some concealer and lipstick! They long for someone to tell them putting a ring on their finger or a necklace on is going to send them to hell and displeases God ( of course if they have a $5000 rolex they can keep wearing that - they just have to get rid of the twenty dollar costume jewelry).
Luckily half of the world's population is men and they can still look like they belong on the cover of GQ magazine when they get in church. For that reason I reccomend concentrating on witnessing to men. 
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ROFL over all of it but that was a good one
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