Good Samaritan Reconsidered - Page 2

RandyWayne · #11 03-25-2008, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

Care to elaborate? Will some of these be trinitarians that did good deeds?

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Good deeds, along with following the two greatest commandments of loving the Lord AND their neighbor (which usually encompass said "good deeds".)
Many who follow Acts 2:38 TO THE LETTER are doing it as nothing more than a "thing that you need to do to be saved", which is to say done in the exact same spirit that they then proceed to follow all the "standards". Getting rid of the TV or putting on a dress or removing the makeup is merely the 4th, 5th, and 6th things needed to do in order to be saved.

Sept5SavedTeen · #12 03-25-2008, 02:55 PM

Isn't who's "in" in your terminology, those who have eternal life? Could this also have been a situation where JESUS is talking about the Mosaic Law that was the standard of salvation in that day?
We had an interesting "home church" discussion where we considered the woman caught in the act of adultery, and contrary to what some of us thought, JESUS did NOT forgive her at that time, HE simply didn't condemn her because he was the only one left, the crowd was gone and two or three people had to bring forth an accussation and be the minimum number to carry out the sentence. We then discusssed how, if she was really interested in her salvation she would make a sacrifice in the Temple, NOT accept Christ or something like that on the spot, because she was still under the Old Covenant, and that's why JESUS didn't "share the Gospel" with her there. I said all that to ask if the Good Samaritan parable needs to be placed in an Old Covenant frame...

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Sept5SavedTeen · #13 03-25-2008, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Good deeds, along with following the two greatest commandments of loving the Lord AND their neighbor (which usually encompass said "good deeds".)

Will Muslims with good deeds be saved... they are monotheistic and some could argue worship the God of Abraham. Will Catholics/ JWs/ Mormons/ Baptists ect be saved by good deeds? Were you saved by good deeds?

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

SDG · #14 03-25-2008, 02:58 PM

Alex ... He is answering the question of the man who asked "who is my neighbor?" ... Jesus tells who is our neighbor in the parable ... then He follows up w/ his own question .... "who showed mercy to their fellow neighbor ...?"

The object of the word neighbor is the man that was beaten.

The Great Commandment is not simply Mosaic law ... it applies to us today ... it's Jesus giving the big picture for those who were micromanaging the law and focusing on the minutia ....

The fact that He included a Samaritan as obeying God's Great commandment was for effect for those who couldn't imagine a Samaritan being capable of fulfilling the law ... or capable of showing mercy.

RandyWayne · #15 03-25-2008, 02:59 PM

Jesus said "I am the way". To many people, "Acts 2:38" is the way. It has turned from a specific example to idolatry in its own right.

SDG · #16 03-25-2008, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

Ok, good point, may I ask where you fall on the whole 3-step/Acts 2:38 issue?
But these trinitarians are "neighbors" in the way JESUS was speaking of a good neighbor and therefore, what will they reap by following these words of JESUS?

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

I'm a one stepping Life Stepper. Jesus is the plan of Salvation ... He is the Way.

SDG · #17 03-25-2008, 03:09 PM

To say the parable of the Good Samaritan must placed in the OT frame is to misunderstand the Gospel of Jesus Christ ...

He is the Lamb that was slain since the foundation of the world ...

OT saints and NT saints are saved by grace through faith ... reconciled unto God by the work of the Lamb at Calvary.

Placing our faith in God ... loving Him w/ all our mind, heart, and strength will lead to loving our neighbor.

Sept5SavedTeen · #18 03-25-2008, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

To say the parable of the Good Samaritan must placed in the OT frame is to misunderstand the Gospel of Jesus Christ ...

He is the Lamb that was slain since the foundation of the world ...

OT saints and NT saints are saved by grace through faith ...

Placing our faith in God ... loving Him w/ all our mind, heart, and strength will lead to loving our neighbor.

Then baptism is left out of the equation, or it is for some. I know of Quakers who say they love GOD and they live lives filled with good deeds, but they reject water baptism, believing a "spiritual"-sort of baptism is sufficient. Are these brethren?

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

SDG · #19 03-25-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

Then baptism is left out of the equation, or it is for some. I know of Quakers who say they love GOD and they live lives filled with good deeds, but they reject water baptism, believing a "spiritual"-sort of baptism is sufficient. Are these brethren?

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Did you want to discuss the role of a properly administered baptism causing salvation and how this applies to a fairly fringe Protestant group that did not practice water baptism on this thread ?

It seems to me that your the thrust of your thread is whether or not trinnies like Baptists ... who practice water baptism ... are IN THE SHIP or NOT ... and whether they get rewarded in hell or a get reprieve in the intensity of Hell's "furnace". Also, whether the parable of the Good Samaritan can be analogized under the New Covenant or not ... and if UPCers are Levites or not.

Are they ... The Quakers .... brethren? ... This would depend on whether we agree on what role of baptism is in the life of a believer .... and whether conscious, willing, sustained disobedience affects our salvation.

Maybe this should be discussed in another thread unless this was about the Quakers all along.

Sept5SavedTeen · #20 03-25-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

unless this was about the Quakers all along.

No, I did not have some underhanded plot to turn us all into Quakers... lol

Is there a promise of eternal life for doing good to our neighbor like this Samaritan did.

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex