Dobson is pulling support....where else will he go? Thad votes Democrat, but not Obama. McCain is touted as being too liberal, yet Thad won't vote for him either.
As "Liberal" as some might think McCain is and if one wants a conservative President...is there really any other choice that will make it to the office? It's sad that we might have to vote for someone just because other third party candidates have no hope of winning anyways, but there is one big issue I see here that historically has often had a balance.
What tends to balance things out is when one party rules congress or the senate having an opposite president could balance it out.
Having differing viewpoints might make for a lot of disagreements but at least it presents an opposing voice to test whether or not what the other side wants is good for us. Without opposition we might as well have a dictator.
Witha strong democrat representation in congress and the house I think America needs a Republican president no matter how "un conservative" he might be in some minds.
It might be a bitter pill to swallow but it might also be the lessor of two evils and in this case a non-vote for McCain is just as much a lessor of two evils as a vote is for a Democrat if you are a Conservtive.
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The thing is, during this campaign McCain has realized that he is a little too far left for most of his base. Otherwise Huckster would not be winning anything. I think that is why his backing down from some positions and he will have to, to keep the Amercan people in favor of him he will have to conform or compromise. All of them do.
What about the media hype going around about how even if Obama gets the most delegates that the super delegates will go for Hillary anyway at the convention. If that happens there will be total pandimonium. He could then pull a Lieberman and actually run against Hillary.
Also Ron Paul has recieved enough support that I figure he will run also. This will change the vote count also. To answer your question , yes, McCain is the lessor of two evils. JMO
My other opinion is wishing the Media would research whats being said about Huckabee and put the truth out there. Things would be alot different if people knew the truth.
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Prax, the short term answer is a half conservitive is better than a full liberal.
the long term answer is a little more complicated.
The fact remains, John McCain has no loyalty to those of us in the conservitive movement who are concerned with the supreme court. He doesnt necessarly like liberals but he has not been exactly happy to see conservitives nominated either.
what does that mean? it means, he doesnt care and therefore, is just as likely to appoint someone like John Paul Stevens (Richard Nixon appointee) as he is an Anthony Kennedy.
He does seem to be clear on one thing. He doesnt like guys like Scalia and Alito.
this is very bad.
In fact for conservitives who care about the court, this is actully exactly the same as Hillary Clinton or Barak Obama being elected.
Jump forward. Will McCain hold the line on spending ? Likely that has been his passion in congress.
will he do other things republicans will like? sure. he will even try to win the war on terror.
BUT what does he do to the Republican party? it is all together possible that McCains VP would win the whitehouse when he retires. if he lives and serves 8 years, then the VP gets elected, we are talking about McCain impacting the face of the republican party until 2020 or 2024.
He will effectivly end the conservitive movement.
A defeated McCain will leave us with 2 appointments to the Supreme court in the relm of Stevens and Ginsburg. which is not much different than what we get with McCain.
It will also leave us with an oppurtunity to reform the Republican party as the Conservitive party in American politics.
the trade off? Iraq and Americas men in uniform will suffer the indignaty of a commander in chief who holds them in contempt.....
I remain conflicted.
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The thing is, during this campaign McCain has realized that he is a little too far left for most of his base. Otherwise Huckster would not be winning anything. I think that is why his backing down from some positions and he will have to, to keep the Amercan people in favor of him he will have to conform or compromise. All of them do.
What about the media hype going around about how even if Obama gets the most delegates that the super delegates will go for Hillary anyway at the convention. If that happens there will be total pandimonium. He could then pull a Lieberman and actually run against Hillary.
Also Ron Paul has recieved enough support that I figure he will run also. This will change the vote count also. To answer your question , yes, McCain is the lessor of two evils. JMO
My other opinion is wishing the Media would research whats being said about Huckabee and put the truth out there. Things would be alot different if people knew the truth.
I could see McCain choosing Lieberman as his running mate, because that would bring in more independents, liberals and the Jewish vote (Florida). Don't look for Ron Paul to run as a third party candidate! He has stated on numerous occasions that he had no intentions of doing that and Ron Paul doesn't seem like the kind of man to play political games.
Paul has even started paving the way for his leaving the Presidential race during the last few days. He recognized that there would be no chance of being the Republican nominee for President, which I have been sorely disappointed that more Americans couldn't see that he was the best choice.
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I saw this video this morning where McCain flip-flopped more than any other candidate I could remember. After viewing this, I wondered why anyone would want this man to be our next President!
Isaiah 53:5: "But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed."(KJV)
"God sends no one away empty except those who are full of themselves." Dwight L. Moody
Dobson is pulling support....where else will he go? Thad votes Democrat, but not Obama. McCain is touted as being too liberal, yet Thad won't vote for him either.
As "Liberal" as some might think McCain is and if one wants a conservative President...is there really any other choice that will make it to the office? It's sad that we might have to vote for someone just because other third party candidates have no hope of winning anyways, but there is one big issue I see here that historically has often had a balance.
What tends to balance things out is when one party rules congress or the senate having an opposite president could balance it out.
Having differing viewpoints might make for a lot of disagreements but at least it presents an opposing voice to test whether or not what the other side wants is good for us. Without opposition we might as well have a dictator.
Witha strong democrat representation in congress and the house I think America needs a Republican president no matter how "un conservative" he might be in some minds.
It might be a bitter pill to swallow but it might also be the lessor of two evils and in this case a non-vote for McCain is just as much a lessor of two evils as a vote is for a Democrat if you are a Conservtive.
I am having a hard time wanting to vote for him...........
Prax, the short term answer is a half conservitive is better than a full liberal.
the long term answer is a little more complicated.
The fact remains, John McCain has no loyalty to those of us in the conservitive movement who are concerned with the supreme court. He doesnt necessarly like liberals but he has not been exactly happy to see conservitives nominated either.
what does that mean? it means, he doesnt care and therefore, is just as likely to appoint someone like John Paul Stevens (Richard Nixon appointee) as he is an Anthony Kennedy.
He does seem to be clear on one thing. He doesnt like guys like Scalia and Alito.
this is very bad.
In fact for conservitives who care about the court, this is actully exactly the same as Hillary Clinton or Barak Obama being elected.
Jump forward. Will McCain hold the line on spending ? Likely that has been his passion in congress.
will he do other things republicans will like? sure. he will even try to win the war on terror.
BUT what does he do to the Republican party? it is all together possible that McCains VP would win the whitehouse when he retires. if he lives and serves 8 years, then the VP gets elected, we are talking about McCain impacting the face of the republican party until 2020 or 2024.
He will effectivly end the conservitive movement.
A defeated McCain will leave us with 2 appointments to the Supreme court in the relm of Stevens and Ginsburg. which is not much different than what we get with McCain.
It will also leave us with an oppurtunity to reform the Republican party as the Conservitive party in American politics.
the trade off? Iraq and Americas men in uniform will suffer the indignaty of a commander in chief who holds them in contempt.....
I remain conflicted.
I don't know Ferd, I don't think McCain is that influential. You he know could actually excite the conservative base in the other direction. It may take him to make the base wake up.
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In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
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