Tulsa Report Day One - Page 21

#**201** 01-25-2008, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by StMark

including TLC??????????????????????????????

interesting insight

I spoke with TLC on the phone last week. When asked if he was leaving the UPC, he told me - "I'm not even thinking about it. I'm more UPC than the Tamp or Tulsa crowd"

Furthermore, he instructed me to let his presbyter know that he wasn't going anywhere.

Just thought I would clarify.

deacon blues · #**202** 01-25-2008, 01:29 AM

I was told a young pastor came marching in to the Embassy Suites wearing a self- designed "I Love UPC" Tshirt (Think of the "I Love NY" logo with a heart in place of the word "love"). He was politely asked to not wear it by his superiors. The guy had about 20 of them made and was going to pass them out. Wish a had a photo of the scene before hetook off the shirt!

BoredOutOfMyMind · #**203** 01-25-2008, 01:29 AM

Deacon are you in Tulsa for the retreat?

There is a boat show there next week too.

deacon blues · #**204** 01-25-2008, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by PastorD

Same 'honest' mistake with initial Summit in Houston. They said they didn't know they were supposed to contact DS or area men and that it was an oversight. Hmmm......

Ambition can be blinding.

George · #**205** 01-25-2008, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dean

For the record, I've never heard anybody associated with the Tulsa group saying things like "leave the UPC now because it is on the road to perdition" or "the UPC is hellbound" or "they are contaminated" type stuff.

I've not heard anything remotely like that at all.

They may not have used those words verbatim but they are telling their saints to stay away from UPC people. I personally know several young people who had close friends in some of these churches and their friends are not allowed to fellowship them anymore. That closely translates to the above phrases.

deacon blues · #**206** 01-25-2008, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

Deacon are you in Tulsa for the retreat?

There is a boat show there next week too.

Nah, I can't ge the time off since I went to BOTT. I just have a good friend thats there.

SecretWarrior · #**207** 01-25-2008, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dean

For the record, I've never heard anybody associated with the Tulsa group saying things like "leave the UPC now because it is on the road to perdition" or "the UPC is hellbound" or "they are contaminated" type stuff.

I've not heard anything remotely like that at all.

Ever hear of a message called "Protecting the bean patch"?

PastorD · #**208** 01-25-2008, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dean

Just got information: It ended about 15 minutes ago with Nate Wilson speaking. Wayne McClain opened it up they said with prayer and took quite a while. They said it broke out in a good spirit of prayer to start the meeting.

There were over 1,000 ministers there according to a young man out from under my ministry. They said Booker did wonderful as did Godair. Obviously the TV advertising issue came up but nothing said against the UPC. They said that the name 'UPC' was only mentioned once - period.

It was made very clear that they were not going to restrict UPC speakers from their pulpits. Their intention is to coexist as a more organized form of the 'conservative leaning' brethren they have always been.

It appeared, according to my 'source', that they were intentionally NOT being derogatory about the UPC. They pretty much let it be known (in so many words) that it would not be tolerated. They said that an accurate count was just over 1,000 ministers with others there who weren't ministers.

The building was pretty full except in the balcony to the right of the platform. They said there were 6 or 7 rows there still open. The floor level was way overcrowded they said. Some left because it was too crowded.

They allowed no picture taking (except the designated person) and no laptops open - for obvious reasons!

Thy speech betrays thee . . .

BoredOutOfMyMind · #**209** 01-25-2008, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by George

They may not have used those words verbatim but they are telling their saints to stay away from UPC people. I personally know several young people who had close friends in some of these churches and their friends are not allowed to fellowship them anymore. That closely translates to the above phrases.

George do you have anything at all positive to post on this forum?

George · #**210** 01-25-2008, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SecretWarrior

Ever hear of a message called "Protecting the bean patch"?

Now we are talking proof of their UPC bashing. Booker took the text from Steve McMullens message years ago at PSR and it is on Bookers church website. He even tells his congregation he did not mean to get into so much but...