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11-22-2007, 05:03 PM
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I am concerned because this girl should be considering a UPC bible college where she can gain a foundation in the things that are eternal rather than those worldy principals (and worldy boys!) that might prove to be her downfall.
So many wonderful kids who were raised in church and who chose to attend a secular university usually ended up as alcoholics or addicted to drugs...not to mention having to endure the lifelong effects of evil philosophies liberal professors spread throughout higher learning.
My admonition is to let the Ward Churchill situation be a warning bell and example for all Apostolic families to not to be willing trade their eternal soul for the brass ring set before them by world in the form of a college education.
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11-22-2007, 05:17 PM
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I am concerned because this girl should be considering a UPC bible college where she can gain a foundation in the things that are eternal rather than those worldy principals (and worldy boys!) that might prove to be her downfall.
So many wonderful kids who were raised in church and who chose to attend a secular university usually ended up as alcoholics or addicted to drugs...not to mention having to endure the lifelong effects of evil philosophies liberal professors spread throughout higher learning.
My admonition is to let the Ward Churchill situation be a warning bell and example for all Apostolic families to not to be willing trade their eternal soul for the brass ring set before them by world in the form of a college education.
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Carp, I of course would have made SURE she followed in my steps and attended my Alma Mater.
Alas, it no longer exists.
The best I can do is let her sit in on the next mini-reunion with Renda, Rhoni, Pianoman, Sherri, CC1, James Griffin and others from the Ole War Skule.
It does so remind me of the very stirring words to the first verse of the Georgia Tech fight song, "Rambling Wreck":
And if I had a daughter sir, I'd dress her in white and gold.
And put her on the campus to cheer the brave and the bold ...
And if I had a son sir, I tell you what he'd do,
He would say to (heck) with Georgia like his father used to do ...
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11-22-2007, 05:44 PM
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Congrats to your daughter and to you. Great job!
She can still attend Tulane and be an LSU fan.
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11-22-2007, 05:54 PM
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Congrats to your daughter and to you. Great job!
She can still attend Tulane and be an LSU fan.
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V Blackwell stole my comment- She will be close enough to LSU to be a fan. I hear when you go to a Tulane game most of the alumni wear horn rimmed glasses and have plastic pen holders in their pockets!!!!!!! Seriously, what a great opportunity for your daughter. Congratulations!!!!!!!
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11-22-2007, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Carpenter
I am concerned because this girl should be considering a UPC bible college where she can gain a foundation in the things that are eternal rather than those worldy principals (and worldy boys!) that might prove to be her downfall.
So many wonderful kids who were raised in church and who chose to attend a secular university usually ended up as alcoholics or addicted to drugs...not to mention having to endure the lifelong effects of evil philosophies liberal professors spread throughout higher learning.
My admonition is to let the Ward Churchill situation be a warning bell and example for all Apostolic families to not to be willing trade their eternal soul for the brass ring set before them by world in the form of a college education.
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The only problem with your plan would perhaps be personal knowledge of the some of the "worldly" boys at Bible College. Oh, they look good on the outside, but unless you believe in a repeat immaculate conception, they contribute to some of the girls coming home from Bible College "in the family way".
I can also name several who attended Bible College and ended up alcoholics and drugs addicts. And as I recall the high defender of the UPC theology (DB)chose a "secular" education.
Perhaps part of the problem would be the thought that one must attend a Bible College to be grounded in "eternal things". Most of our churches and families are failing our youth in Bible teaching. If one cannot be a witness in a "secular" college, and grow as a Christian there, then Christianity does not deserve to survive another generation in this country.
"Don't go to secular college because you will backslide" is an unfortunate mentality which has handicapped the Apostolic movement, not enhanced it.
Having said that, Bible College does have its place, especially in ministerial and music training. For example, my oldest daughter is attending college to get a nursing degree, after which she will probably spend 2-3 years at a Pentecostal College studying music (at the moment she is leaning toward Indiana, since JCM is no longer an option).
Tim and Darla. Congratulations!!!!
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11-22-2007, 06:05 PM
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Timlan,
Congrats on your daughters scholarship!!!! That is double the amount that my son had when he went to Lipscomb.
That has to be a relief to ole dad's wallet. LOL!!!!!
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11-22-2007, 06:25 PM
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Woohoo, the Green Wave! 1998 Conference USA Champs!!! Yup, I think she might still root for your Tigers, he heeeeeee!
Congrats on her success.
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11-22-2007, 06:42 PM
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Timlan,
Congrats on your daughters scholarship!!!! That is double the amount that my son had when he went to Lipscomb.
That has to be a relief to ole dad's wallet. LOL!!!!!
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CONGRATS Tim and Darla!
CC1,
Have you seen the tuition rates at Tulane? It will be a help but my dear Friend Tim is still looking at a significant contribution. It is a shame that she didn't graduate from a LA high school so she could have received the additional TOPS award which would have added the value of an education at LSU to her total.
Either way, Tulane is a great school and a great opportunity and she will no doubt continue to excel.
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11-22-2007, 06:48 PM
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Congrats to Darla and Timlan!!
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11-22-2007, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by James Griffin
The only problem with your plan would perhaps be personal knowledge of the some of the "worldly" boys at Bible College. Oh, they look good on the outside, but unless you believe in a repeat immaculate conception, they contribute to some of the girls coming home from Bible College "in the family way".
I can also name several who attended Bible College and ended up alcoholics and drugs addicts. And as I recall the high defender of the UPC theology (DB)chose a "secular" education.
Perhaps part of the problem would be the thought that one must attend a Bible College to be grounded in "eternal things". Most of our churches and families are failing our youth in Bible teaching. If one cannot be a witness in a "secular" college, and grow as a Christian there, then Christianity does not deserve to survive another generation in this country.
"Don't go to secular college because you will backslide" is an unfortunate mentality which has handicapped the Apostolic movement, not enhanced it.
Having said that, Bible College does have its place, especially in ministerial and music training. For example, my oldest daughter is attending college to get a nursing degree, after which she will probably spend 2-3 years at a Pentecostal College studying music (at the moment she is leaning toward Indiana, since JCM is no longer an option).
Tim and Darla. Congratulations!!!!
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I know some here didn't take me seriously, and for that I just say, let my reputation put all things into context!!!!
...but seriously, I had baseball offers from ORU and now I wish I had looked into college like Azusa, Masters, Pepperdine, etc. The first year at college is always the most difficult.
I believe there is something good to be said about mainstream Christian colleges where folks don't have their heads jammed into the sand for fear of false doctrine and aren't afraid to give their testimony and to attend chapel service daily.
I agree that the Apostolic movement is hampered by the fear of secular education and it is even more unfortunate that folks and worse, PASTORS, cannot trust the training, instruction, prayer, and effort they put into their kids so they can make the right decisions.
I believe Apostolica has their heads in the sand on lots of issues and only now can some actually see the sun and they only have sand in their ears.
Bravo Tim, I tip my hat to you and your daughter!!!
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