For those who want to know...RULES at my church!

[SoCaliUPC]

Originally Posted by dizzyde

Are you boys having fun yet????

We went down to Fresno yesterday....Caused a RIOT!!!

Let me tell you ALL...Thad sounds so much better! For those of you who have talked to him in the last 2 weeks, he was not coughing every 15 seconds. He had a little spell after drinking something cold...doctor said no to that.

Right now, waiting for him to pick me up. Heading to get something to eat and then going to an outing with his choir. They are singing at some community event.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by SoCaliUPC

Care to say why?

When someone has gone through what she went through...most people leave altogether and equate a relationship with God as this.

We are on the same wavelength here. The treatment of the SAINT was ugly!

This was not a person with a relationship with God at all. Extremism is a mild term.

I am Conservative, but not to the point to care what someone does in their private lives. At some point it indeed is cultic.



What is worse is the mention of the 10 member church that churned through 300-400 lives in a few short years.

Such wanton destruction for NOTHING!
I started the day with that great post by Michael Phelps on churches with no power. I replied "A church that had 17, 17 years ago and now still has but 15 has something wrong with it. Living organisms grow and multiply."

[LaVonne]

Originally Posted by SISTER Murphy

Sister, I would be careful, for this simple reason:

Matthew 12
[33] Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.
[34] O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
[35] A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
[36] But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
[37] For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

You know there comes a time when Jesus Himself quits dealing with people and HE gets angry...there are thing God hates. I cannot believe for one minute that Jesus approves of this kind of thing and I refuse to keep quiet any longer. Besides...the scriptures you so kindly provided are directed toward the religious leader...interesting isn't it?

[SoCaliUPC]

Originally Posted by CareyM

You know there comes a time when Jesus Himself quits dealing with people and HE gets angry...there are thing God hates. I cannot believe for one minute that Jesus approves of this kind of thing and I refuse to keep quiet any longer. Besides...the scriptures you so kindly provided are directed toward the religious leader...interesting isn't it?

I feel a preachin spirit coming on. Preach it Carey!!! I loose you.....

[LaVonne]

Originally Posted by SISTER Murphy

Heavens to betsy! Imagine the nerve of that mean dictatorial pastor, realizing the need for today's generation to get a college education! How dare he?

Not really my point. My husband struggles to provide for us, because the leaders in our church would not let him go to college (or anyone else). It appears they make changes only when it applies to their families.

[LaVonne]

Originally Posted by SoCaliUPC

I feel a preachin spirit coming on. Preach it Carey!!! I loose you.....

SHADAMAKAH!!!

[dizzyde]

Originally Posted by Jeanie

Oh me too!!!

I really felt I lost who I was at one point, I became someone else just to please others.

When your life becomes someone elses, when you try to become whatever it is that the others want you to be, a little of you dies every day.

Generally, when someone else is demanding that you change who you are to please them, or God, that list of demands is continually changing. Because they don't even know what it is that they need or expect, it is usually a deficiency in themselves that causes them to behave the way they do. They are not happy with who they are. I had a nervous breakdown before I realized this. It has taken me years to regain myself, and there are parts of me that I feel will forever be lost. But God is good!! He has been faithful to me!

Sorry, SENSITIVE subject!!! LOL!

[Thad]

Originally Posted by dizzyde

It sounds to me like it probably was one of the independant churches.

Yeah, the no doctors ones always get to me, in my observations those rules usually change right about the time the Pastor or someone in his family start to have serious health problems.

THAT IS EXXXXXACTLY RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SoCaliUPC]

Originally Posted by CareyM

Not really my point. My husband struggles to provide for us, because the leaders in our church would not let him go to college (or anyone else). It appears they make changes only when it applies to their families.

Now...that is some truth! Seen it a time or two. (Thank God not in my church!)

[dizzyde]

Originally Posted by CareyM

SHADAMAKAH!!!