Formula

Kutless · #1 10-23-2007, 08:37 AM

My friend has left his UPCI church to go a different route. He says its so his wife will go to church with him. The church he goes to know baptizes like this:

"I now baptize you in the name of the Father, son and H.G. in the name of Jesus."

Any thoughts?

StillStanding · #2 10-23-2007, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Kutless

My friend has left his UPCI church to go a different route. He says its so his wife will go to church with him. The church he goes to know baptizes like this:

"I know baptize you in the name of the Father, son and H.G. in the name of Jesus."

Any thoughts?

I have heard that some baptize "in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost WHICH IS Jesus Christ!

Either way, the magic word is spoken!

freeatlast · #3 10-23-2007, 08:55 AM

You know the answer's you'll get Kutless and from who you'll get them.

All the instances in the bible, what was recorded that was said varied from one verse to the other.

Do we really think God will disanul someones salvation over the words above being said in baptism?
I know some of us do. The work of the cross disqualified over a technicality.

I truly believe God is smart enough to know it is He, that is being refered to that "Formula"

Darcie · #4 10-23-2007, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by freeatlast

You know the answer's you'll get Kutless and from who you'll get them.

All the instances in the bible, what was recorded that was said varied from one verse to the other.

Do we really think God will disanul someones salvation over the words above being said in baptism?
I know some of us do. The work of the cross disqualified over a technicality.

I truly believe God is smart enough to know it is He, that is being refered to that "Formula"

GOOD ANSWER!

Sam · #5 10-23-2007, 09:11 AM

Well, in my opinion:
the heart condition of the one being baptized is more important than the amount of water used and the words that are spoken.

Sam · #6 10-23-2007, 09:15 AM

oneness folks don't even agree among themselves on what words to use.
Some insist on "Lord Jesus Christ," others say that if "Lord" is mentioned, it is wrong and needs to be done over. Some say the Father's name is Lord, the Son's name is Jesus' and the Holy Ghost's name is Christ so the three words become one full name.

Scott Hutchinson · #7 10-23-2007, 09:16 AM

Since the name of Jesus Christ is mentioned that formula techinally would work.
But to me it's better just to say in the name of Jesus Christ ,the way that is mentioned in this thread seems a way to try to please everybody.
I love my trini friends, but I'm not gonna do things to try to please them.

Sam · #8 10-23-2007, 09:18 AM

I have not been there so I can't verify that this is true, but i have read that a UPC church in Newark, Ohio insists on, "In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost."

That's the formula Kenneth Hagin recommended in a book that I read a while back.

Scott Hutchinson · #9 10-23-2007, 09:19 AM

Yes the heart condition is important ,but what is said over a baptismal candidate is important as well, I still believe in standing for One Lord, One Faith ,One Baptism.
I say this in Christian charity with no ill will towards anyone.

Nahum · #10 10-23-2007, 09:20 AM

Why would a formula matter to people who view baptism as nothing more than an out-dated embarrasing inconvenience?